[CQ-Contest] High Rate Dual Radio CQing

Stephen Bloom sbloom at acsalaska.net
Mon Dec 7 11:35:19 EST 2015


Agree with all with one additional factor.  For most of us ....dueling pileups is just something that wouldn't cross our mind.  The best operator out there ...operating from W6 or W4 ...just isn't going to generate pileups ..at least not for very long.  It would be great to have that skill level ...it would give one the big advantage of being able to do something with Radio 2 in that first hour or two of pure running but that would be about it for those of us working from non rare mults.  One thing I'm learning as I do the travel thing is ...every contest is a completely different cat dependent on where one operates.

It seems to me ...rather than go through all the agita of category shopping ..it's easier to add a couple of extra categories for the guys who aren't interested in staying at the leading edge.  The "Classic 24 hour" example for WPX.  Understand that most "cheating" in any category is dependent on self enforcement.  People don't get caught unless they do something blatant.  Speaking for myself ..  as an example ..I won SOABHP Assist in WW CW last year for Oceania (from E51), got the cert etc.  Didn't give any thought to it.  I've always assumed the serious ops would be assisted except for SS.   Were I non assisted ...I would have been sixth.  No intent on category shopping, I just didn't realize that in that part of the world, the competition was in Unassisted.  If I'm back there, I'd go Non Assist so it would be clear how I compared ...but even without that ...anyone looking at "All scores single operator" can tell that Assisted doesn't help in that contest from that part of the world.  No biggie.

Steve KL7SB

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] High Rate Dual Radio CQing

Hi Steve,

I submit that's not the point of SO2R, it's merely the level of proficiency most users have settled into. These folks have simply evolved past that level.

I was reacting to the suggestion, though admittedly not by you, there was something illegal about the practice or that there needed to be a new category. Contesting is unique in that it's one sport where people of all different abilities compete. If you were a sprinter but can't get your time in the 100 down to the 10-seconds range, guaranteed you're not going to line up next to Usain Bolt. If you're a driver who has trouble driving safely at 55, guaranteed you're never lining up behind Jeff Gordon. 

But in contesting, the bad drivers and slow sprinters are in the same field as the Usain Bolts and Jeff Gordons. To some people, it seems that means we need to tie an anchor to Usain or give Jeff Gordon a restrictor plate. I would prefer we marvel at and celebrate the abilities of ZF2MJ et al. 

I'm pretty sure I will never be at that level, but that's my fault. It's not up to these folks or contest organizers to dumb anyone down to my level. 

73, Kelly 

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> On Dec 7, 2015, at 8:10 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/06/2015 07:27 PM, Kelly Taylor wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
>> Granted, however, if you have good antenna systems on both bands (and good propagation on both) and you’re running dueling CQs, isn’t a potential outcome of both CQs an answer to each, and the ability to answer each in sequence? Wasn’t that the point of SO2R in the first place?
> No. The point of SO2R, for the vast majority of SO2R users, is to run on one radio, while S&P on another radio, with a lockout to prevent transmitting on both radios simultaneously.
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
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