[CQ-Contest] K4VV in ARRL DX CW

[Oliver Dröse]

Give us a seperate category for remote ops. Then Paul will finally be 
happy and K4VV would have won their category, too. Seems like a WIN-WIN 
situation for everybody, doesn't it? ;-)

73, Olli - DH8BQA

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de


Am 26.02.2015 um 22:08 schrieb Ron Notarius W3WN:
> I could spend paragraphs pointing out where Paul's argument is twisting the meaning and intent of  the rules, as I'm sure many others can as well.
>   
> And we will end up going down the same "slippery slope" that the term "Assisted" has gone down almost every year, for so many years.
>   
> Let's not.
>   
> That said, I agree that, now that it's proven that it CAN be done for a M/S or M/M station, a rational discussion of whether or not there is or will be a need for a separate "remote controlled station" (or similar term) category is or will be necessary.
>   
> And THAT said, I don't think we should overlook the technical aspect that it could be done, and it was done.  I would be more than interested in reading about the challenges faced and how they were overcome, simply from the technical aspect of how one does it.
>   
> So for now, I think of this effort as an experimental operation of sorts, or if you prefer, a proof-of-concept.  And I congratulate the people who designed and built this station for making it work, even it it didn't come close to "winning" any categories.
>   
> 73, ron w3wn
>
>
> On 02/26/15, Paul O'Kane wrote:
>
>
> The ARRL Contest Update for February 25 reports that
>
> A team of operators mounted the first totally remote
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-in-arrl-dx-cw-contest>
> Multioperator Unlimited category effort in last weekend's
> ARRL DX CW contest at the station of K4VV.
>
> It seems to me that the K4VV station was, in effect, a
> private repeater, with access restricted to team members.
>
> http://www.arrl.org/general-rules-for-all-arrl-contests
>
> The general rules or ARRL contests state -
>
> 3.7.2.1. Stations remotely controlled by radio link may
> use necessary equipment at the control point.
>
> Note: there is no reference to stations remotely
> controlled by internet link.
>
> 3.9. Contacts made through repeaters, digipeaters, or
> gateways are not permitted.
>
> 3.10. The use of non-Amateur Radio means of communication
> (for example, Internet or telephone) to solicit a
> contact (or contacts) during the contest period is
> not permitted.
>
> It would appear that, for each and every K4VV QSO hosted
> on the internet as a result of calling CQ or TEST, the
> internet was indeed used to solicit those QSOs.
>
> IMHO, remote contesting, with its absolute dependence
> on the internet for each and every QSO, needs to be
> identified as such, and needs separate categories for
> scoring and listing purposes. For identification, the
> suffixes /IM (internet mobile) or /R (remote) would do
> do the job.
>
> 73,
> Paul EI5DI
>
>
>
>
>
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