[CQ-Contest] Another question about remote DX-peditions

[Gerry Hull]

Agreed, Kelly.  That is why I said "most contests".   This example is a
silly edge case, but people will worry about it.

73, Gerry W1VE


On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt at mymts.net> wrote:

> Hi Gerry,
> As far as the ARRL contests go, I note with interest (from ARRL General
> Rules):
>
> 3.3.An operator may not use more than one call sign from any given
> location
> during the contest period.
>
> The language specifically refers to "an operator", meaning the person,
> rather than a station. Since you will always be where you are during the
> contest, that's your "given location". You aren't two people at once, one
> operating the local station and one operating the remote station.
>
> Ergo, I'd argue you'd be in violation of 3.3 if you used the remote
> callsign
> and the local callsign in the same contest, irrespective of where the
> remote
> station is located.
>
> I find support for my contention the "operator" refers to the person from
> ARRL rules allowing family members to use one station for separate
> operations. (IOW, if you operated 300 Qs and your son got on and used his
> call for 300 Qs and you each filed your own logs, that would be OK.)
>
> 73, kelly
> ve4xt
>
>
> On 1/23/15 9:25 AM, "Gerry Hull" <gerry at yccc.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Art,
> >
> > I kinda don't understand your VE4VTR/K3KU QSO question?  If both were
> live
> > and not remote, what is the issue?
> >
> > Now, the question was, for DCC Credit, if you are operating a DXpedition
> > remotely (in fact, any station remotely) and, at the same time, you have
> a
> > transceiver with antennas at your control site,
> > under the new DXCC rules, this would count as a valid QSO, as long as RF
> > transmitted by the remote was received on a receiver at the control QTH.
> > I do not think their is any current rule preventing you from being the
> > operator at both ends... Maybe that will come.
> >
> > Of course, to make the QSO count, the control operator must be licensed
> in
> > both entities.  What that means today varies based on the remote entity.
> >
> > The interesting point here is, since this is a contesting reflector, is
> > that I think that in some contests, you cannot be an operator at more
> than
> > one station in the same contest.
> > (Though not many).  They would have to make a new rule if you were the
> same
> > operator in the same QSO!  Until such a rule is written, it's "legal".
> >
> > 73, Gerry W1VE/VE1RM
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 6:01 AM, Art Boyars <artboyars at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mostly in jest (because I, myself, don't chase the expeditions, but I'm
> >> interested to see the reaction of people who care about them)...
> >>
> >> If you are at home running a remote DXpedition to Zap Island, can you
> work
> >> yourself from your home station for DXCC credit?
> >>
> >> I will mention that, so far, VE4VTR's only QSO is with K3KU in an NAQP
> CW,
> >> though it was not remote -- live op on both ends.  Was it legal?  Ask
> >> Industry Canada.  Was it w/in the contest rules?  Actually, as I
> understand
> >> the rules, same answer.  Was it fun?  I almost lost my run freq from
> >> laughing so hard and from exchanging smart-mule e-mails with the obvious
> >> perpetrator.
> >>
> >> 73, Art K3KU
> >> Who tuned for maximum fun
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