[CQ-Contest] Spring & NAQP

Tue Jan 27 11:03:27 EST 2015

The only authority who counts when it comes to deciding multipliers is the
contest organizer. If an organizer determines he or she would like to
combine regions into one multiplier, that's what it shall be.

There's no legal requirement to follow any borders or respect any particular
geopolitical decisions.

We who play in contests can lobby organizers to our point of view or choose
to vote with our feet, but we can't force organizers to take any particular
action.

73, kelly
ve4xt

On 1/26/15 8:38 PM, "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm at arrl.net> wrote:

> It doesn't matter what you think of our activity. The bottom line is that
> we are not in any way part of the State of Maryland and there's zero reason
> we should be lumped in with them. The District of Columbia is an entirely
> separate political entity.
> 
> A single building in New York City is a multiplier in these contests! When
> is the last time you got that one in your log?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon,1/26/2015 12:59 PM, David Siddall wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> 
>>> It isn't surprising that you failed to work every station that was on in
>>> a contest -- I never have either!
>>> 
>> 
>> Unlike most DC contesters, I enter most contests with a full bore effort.
>> When I miss a mult like DC 2/3 of the time that it's a mult, and it's often
>> the only US mult I miss, it tells me that few DC ops are serious
>> contesters. But you still want to be a mult.
>> 
>> 
>>> Please go through your 110,000 QSOs again looking for some of the other
>>> multipliers.  I suggest:
>>> 
>>> North Korea
>>> Ethiopia
>>> Vatican
>>> Nepal
>>> 
>>> Your argument is that we should limit multiplier status to entities that
>>> consistently participate.
>>> 
>> 
>> My position is that we should not be ADDING mult status for entities that
>> don't support the contests where they are already multipliers. I work most
>> major contests (except DX and 160 contests) with 1.5kW and a damned good
>> antenna farm, including Beverages. If I'm missing DC 2/3 of the time, their
>> activity does not even come close to justify adding DC as a mult.  Remember
>> -- RTTY RU mults count once -- that tells me no one in DC was on the air in
>> a serious way for RTTY RU in 2012 and 2014.
>> 
>>  Do you really think that this is the way to promote contest activity?
>>> 
>> 
>> I think it's irrelevant to promoting contest activity.  I talked earlier
>> about the difficulty of putting a decent station on the air in a major city
>> like DC. And when you make a single city a multiplier, it benefits only
>> those few guys who get on the air, and the close-in guys who can work them
>> (because most have limited antenna farms, noise, etc.  If DC is to be a
>> multiplier, why not Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Denver,
>> Salt Lake City, Minneapolis, St. Louis, Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit,
>> Atlanta, New Orleans, Miami, Boston, New York, Philadelphia?  I suspect
>> that if we did the research, we would find most of those cities have
>> comparable area and greater population.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
>> 
>>> 73,  Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> p.s.  In fact, we met at a PVRC meeting in Maryland where you talked
>>> about chokes.  You're certainly welcome any time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com
>>> <mailto:k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>     Hi David,
>>> 
>>>     I just went through 8 years of logs, about 110,000 QSOs. K3VOA is
>>>     in my log once, for 2008 ARRL 10M. N8HM is in my log once -- 2014
>>>     WPX RTTY. W3HAC is in my log once, for SSB SS in 2014. W3DQ is in
>>>     my log five times. NN3RP shows up 10 times. KE3X is there for 32 Qs.
>>> 
>>>     Looking at the last four years of contests where DC is a mult, I
>>>     worked DC in ARRL 10M in 2012 and 2014 (W1AW/3). I worked DC in
>>>     RTTY RU only in 2013. The last time I worked DC in CQ 160 was in
>>>     2011, when I worked W3DQ.  Bottom line -- in contests where DC
>>>     counts as a mult, I worked DC in only about one third of them in
>>>     the last four years.
>>> 
>>>     To be fair, this does not include my W6BX and KU6W logs. I use
>>>     W6BX for split-site operation in SS, and KU6W for most WPX.
>>> 
>>>     I know about the DC lunch meeting -- W3DQ brought me along when my
>>>     XYL and I were staying with him and his lovely XYL Jennifer for a
>>>     few days on our way home from a Baltimore wedding.
>>> 
>>>     73, Jim K9YC
>>> 
>>>     On Sat,1/24/2015 4:03 PM, David Siddall wrote:
>>> 
>>>         W1AW/3 (@K3VOA), N8HM, W3HAC, KE3X,  W3DQ & NN3RP all were on
>>>         from D.C. in
>>>         the 2014 ten meter contest.  But you would have to know the
>>>         callsigns to
>>>         recognize which "MD" stations were located in D.C. for NAQP
>>>         because some
>>>         signed "MD" to prevent others having logging problems. PVRC
>>>         even holds a
>>>         monthly meeting in downtown D.C. to which anyone interested in
>>>         contesting
>>>         is welcome, including anyone on this reflector.
>>> 
>>>         There's activity and interest in DC, notwithstanding that
>>>         after 9-11
>>>         security at government buildings has made access difficult or
>>>         impossible
>>>         for non-employees at some of the better club stations that
>>>         used to get on
>>>         regularly.  (I operated my first contest after college at
>>>         W3DOS in D.C.,
>>>         before being invited by K7UGA to join W3USS at the other end
>>>         of the Mall.)
>>>            73, Dave K3ZJ
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