[CQ-Contest] Log Checking Technology

[Gerry Hull]

It takes less than 1/2 second to say "out of band" if someone calls you and
they are out of band.  I presume you do this, Ed.  Not pointing at you.
However, the station who accepts QSOs from an out-of-band caller is a big
part of the problem as well.  Since many of these issues are to do with
US Stations, it's no excuse for DX not knowing the US rules -- a large part
of their score in any contest will come from the US.

Gerry W1VE


On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:

> I agree Gerry but the same answer could be said for all the EU folks that
> just got warnings.
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> Ed
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> *From:* Gerry Hull [mailto:gerry at yccc.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2015 10:59 AM
> *To:* Edward Sawyer; CQ-Contest
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> *Subject:* Re: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking Technology
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> Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, but I bet 100% of those calling
> you, Ed, are clicking on a spot and not realizing it is split.
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> Gerry
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> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
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> To be clear – I have had US hams call me on 7030 when listening there.
> Obviously, I am not trying listen to US hams but they come anyway.
> Probably 4 or 5 a contest if I do that for an hour or two.
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> Ed
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> From: Chris Plumblee [mailto:chris.plumblee at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 7:49 AM
> To: VK4TS Trent Sampson
> Cc: sawyered at earthlink.net; cq-contest at contesting.com
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> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking Technology
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> The U.S. Phone band extends down to 7.125, which means 7.127.5 or 7.128
> LSB (depending on how confident you are in the cleanliness of your
> transmitted signal) is perfectly legal.
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> The FCC made that change in 2007 or 2008, if I recall.
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> 73, Chris WF3C
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> On Thursday, May 7, 2015, VK4TS Trent Sampson <vk4ts at outlook.com> wrote:
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> " Also, I have heard numerous US hams call on 40M below 7150,"
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> I just figured they could because I often park simplex on 7130~7140 and
> work
> plenty of US stations
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com <javascript:;>
> ] On Behalf Of Ed
> Sawyer
> Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2015 8:02 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking Technology
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> I think its great that this is finally getting the action that it has
> deserved.  Kudos to Randy for leading the way on it.
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> 2 comments/questions from me:
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> 1)      I am very curious how Power was decided to be abused in the cases
> where that was a violation.  Randy and I have had some dialog on my case of
> seeing the difference in score and on air observation of my station
> changing
> from the low power to the high power use and category.  There were a couple
> of cases where it would have been likely obvious that I couldn't be using
> low power any more (and wasn't) that Randy and I talked about.
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> 2)      I have heard numerous people working outside of USA bands yet don't
> see any USA calls on the warning list.  Is there a way that they should be
> reported in the future for possible investigation?  If so, I was unaware of
> this interest of the committee.  As all USA ops know, there seems to be
> some
> difference in legal interpretation between country regulatory authorities
> on
> exactly when you are "out of band".  Here in the US, the sideband is
> considered part of the transmitted signal and therefore you can't legally
> transmit on 21449.  Whether you can transmit on 212447.5 is a matter of
> debate depending on the cleanness of your signal vs the -40dB skirts of
> your
> signal spectrum but clearly, for any SSB signal 21448 and above is not
> going
> to be legal for even the cleanest SSB signal from what I can determine
> (maybe some even debate this - not sure).  Also, I have heard numerous US
> hams call on 40M below 7150, some have even called me while I am listening
> split.  Should we be emailing these infractions somewhere when observed?
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> Ed  N1UR
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