[CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle

donovanf at starpower.net donovanf at starpower.net
Mon May 11 09:53:38 EDT 2015 

Hi Don, 


Your friend G3ZHL appears in the TO7A log four times! 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Don Field" <don.field at gmail.com> 
To: donovanf at starpower.net 
Cc: "CQ-Contest Reflector" <cq-contest at contesting.com> 
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 11:37:18 AM 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle 

Just for the record, G3ZHL is a good friend of mine and doesn't operate CW 
or 160m 

73 Don G3XTT 

On 11 May 2015 at 07:38, <donovanf at starpower.net> wrote: 

> Something is really wrong with this TO7A public log. There are a few brief 
> runs on 160 meters scattered through the log, and they're all very familiar 
> calls to 160 meters operators. Then there's this run that was first noticed 
> by EA5RS that looks all wrong. Most of the calls are not regularly active 
> on 160 meters and only a three appear in PJ2T's 160 meter log: 
> 
> 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0437 W9FML 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0438 K6NO 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0439 ON4TO 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0440 OZ1CTK 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0441 AC5RN 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0442 RA3QSY 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0444 G3ZHL 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0445 DL7SBV 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0446 DL8OK 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0447 OH3M 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0448 SM2BLY 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0449 UT5URW 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0450 K4LNN 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0451 DL3TU 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0452 LA5HE 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0454 OE3V 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0456 OK1EK 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0457 SP3CQP 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0459 OM1LA 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0459 K0PJ 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0502 PA1BR 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0504 PY1NP 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0506 LZ1MG 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0507 RW3PK 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0508 R6KY 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0509 9A2JK 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0511 LU2YE 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0512 N3XF 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0513 W2OR 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0515 YU1QU 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0517 EA4FL 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0518 W9FY 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0518 N5HI 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0519 EI2KC 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0520 KG8P 
> QSO: 1830 CW 2014-11-30 0522 EA8MT 
> 
> 
> Am I missing something? 
> 
> 
> 73 
> Frank 
> W3LPL 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "k3it" <gokoyev+k3it at gmail.com> 
> To: "Richard F DiDonna NN3W" <richnn3w at verizon.net> 
> Cc: "CQ-Contest Reflector" <cq-contest at contesting.com>, "Frank Donovan" < 
> donovanf at starpower.net> 
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 2:22:26 AM 
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle 
> 
> 
> UT5URW does not appear on 160m in any of the 7000+ logs except TO7A's. 
> There is also a second NIL QSO with UT5URW in TO7A's log on 20m. Andrey 
> lives in a high rise apartment building and doesn't have a 160m antenna as 
> far as I know. 
> 
> 
> What's interesting is that UT5URW almost never sends in contest logs (his 
> main interest is DXing - I think he is missing only the Bouvet Island). The 
> last log submitted before 2014 was in 1995! But he is active in almost 
> every CQ WW, chasing DX and giving out points to friends. Just never 
> bothers to submit the log. What a surprise in 2014! 
> 
> 
> I grew up with UT5URW and I know that he keeps absolutely meticulous 
> record of his activities. There almost no chance that he could make a QSO 
> without logging, especially if it's a non-trivial 160m DX contact. 
> 
> 
> curious if these NIL QSOs exist on the SDR recording. May be someone else 
> was pretending to be UT5URW ;) 
> 
> 
> 73! Vasily K3IT 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Richard F DiDonna NN3W < 
> richnn3w at verizon.net > wrote: 
> 
> 
> Frank, I looked at this with some spot checks: OE3V, LA5HE (Rag!), SP3CQP, 
> etc. Your team did not work any of these stations; nor did K3LR; nor did 
> DL1A; nor did CN2AA - on any band... 
> 
> Looking a the log of ON4TO, the op made his last QSO at 2310z on 11/29 and 
> it looks like he went to bed. He resumed operating at 0608z on 11/30. 
> 
> Odd indeed. 
> 
> 73 Rich NN3W 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/10/2015 5:14 PM, donovanf at starpower.net wrote: 
> 
>  
> Juan, 
> 
> 
> You've discovered an extremely unusual pattern in the TO7A public log 
> that's very difficult to rationalize. 
> 
> 
> Three of the 160 meter European QSOs in TO7A's log have public logs: 
> ON4TO, UT5URW and R6KY. There is no TO7A 160M QSO in 
> any of these logs. 
> 
> 
> There's a remarkable run of 160 meter European QSOs from 0437-0608Z 
> Sunday in the TO7A's log but a lack of any of the very active 160 meter 
> European calls in the TO7A log.. It would be interesting to try to find the 
> European calls in the 0437-0608Z TO7A 160 meter log and also the 
> PY1NP and LU2YE calls in the 160 meters in the logs of other very active 
> 160 meter stations such as CN2AA, 9K2HN, HK1NA and PJ2T. 
> 
> 
> I suspect only a tiny fraction of the European calls in that 0437-0608Z 160 
> meter run appear in any 160 meter log and PY1NP and LU2YE 
> probably won't be found either. 
> 
> 
> This unusual pattern may also appear elsewhere in the TO7A log... 
> 
> 
> 73 
> Frank 
> W3LPL 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "Juan EA5RS" < ea5rs at ono.com > 
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com 
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:08:57 PM 
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle 
> 
> Interesting debate, but I am afraid there has been some misleading 
> info/assumption on the reason for TO7A's DQ. 
> 
> I have not studied the log in detail, but if you are curious enough, have a 
> look at TO7A's 160m log: 
> Not one single station with a public log in zones 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 20 or 
> 33 claims working TO7A on 160 
> Yet TO7A's log claims having worked 29 stations in these zones. 
> Most of these 29 QSOs are unique calls at least on 160, most do not have a 
> public log, and if they have a public log, the 160m QSO with TO7A is not 
> there 
> 
> Maybe this has something to do with why he has been DQd 
> I have performed a similar scrutiny with some of TO7A's competitors logs 
> but 
> I haven't found a similar situation 
> 
> Just public logs data (5,8 million records) and some database code 
> 
> Juan 
> EA5RS 
> 
> -----Mensaje original----- 
> De: CQ-Contest [mailto: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com ] En nombre de 
> Stan 
> Stockton 
> Enviado el: domingo, 10 de mayo de 2015 1:09 
> Para: W0MU Mike Fatchett 
> CC: cq-contest at contesting.com 
> Asunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle 
> 
> 
> <blockquote> 
> On 5/9/2015 12:11 PM, Lloyd Cabral wrote: 
> 
> 
> After following this thread, my only wish is that Randy would have 
> 
> 
> inquired here for another e-mail address 
> 
> <blockquote> 
> for Dim, or another source of contact with him BEFORE bringing this issue 
> 
>  
> mainstream. Accusations as 
> 
> <blockquote> 
> serious as this should first be handled privately with the accused given a 
> 
> </blockquote> 
> fair chance to defend himself. 
> 
> <blockquote> 
> Stan K5GO hit the nail on the head with his previous post. IMHO, taking 
> 
> </blockquote> 
> Dim's case public right off seemed 
> 
> <blockquote> 
> premature, unprofessional and totally unnecessary. 
> Lloyd KH6LC 
> On May 9, 2015, at 3:15 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett < w0mu at w0mu.com > wrote: 
> 
> The guy got caught red handed and you people want to hang those that 
> 
> </blockquote> 
> caught him. 
> 
> Mike, 
> 
> I wish you had told everyone you had information showing or even saying he 
> got caught red handed a long time ago. Do you have some information that 
> says he was caught "red handed"? 
> 
> Everyone else is reading what has been written and the email posted on the 
> reflector says that the committee had a "belief" that he was using 
> assistance and substantiated the fact that it was a "belief" by asking him 
> to provide a recording (not required in the rules) in order to further 
> evaluate the situation. However, even in that email, the bottom line and 
> last sentence, after what would appear to be an attempt to communicate some 
> hope that there would be further evaluation, said emphatically and in no 
> uncertain terms that he was disqualified for 2014 but welcome to enter in 
> 2015. 
> 
> I am not making any assumption this process is as cut and dried as you 
> would 
> like it to be. 
> 
> 73...Stan, K5GO 
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