[CQ-Contest] Proposed rule changes

[Ron Notarius W3WN]

Well Joe,

I hate to say it, but I think there was a level of trust (misplaced,
possibly, but that's another matter) that the vast majority played by the
rules.

So, IIRC, the log checkers spent a lot of time looking through a lot of
paper; obviously, even though the number of entries wasn't as many as the
current committees are dealing with today, that was a LOT of paper.  So I
doubt that every single QSO claimed on every single log was cross-checked.

Right or wrong.

Today's level of technology... for that matter, the level of technology for
the past 15 years at least... now lets the log checkers electronically
cross-check each and every QSO for each and every submitted log.

One would think that that would be a good thing.  Right?

But considering the amount of mistrust displayed in recent times, and not
just in this thread... I guess things didn't work out as hoped.

Now, maybe I'm old-fashioned... or have turned into a curmudgeon, I don't
know any more.  But, the more I feel that I not trusted to be an honest op
before I even key the rig, the less likely I am to operate in that contest.

Just sayin'

73, ron w3wn

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From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 12:32 PM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed rule changes

This is getting Crazy!
What did sponsors do when it was all paper logs and dupe sheets, and 
terrible penmanship many of us have on a non rushed day never mind 
trying to log the contact, up date the dupe sheet, and send with at best 
a keyer in the days when we did not even have a memory keyer yet/

Joe wb9sbd
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On 5/23/2015 10:18 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:
> So..if I'm running on 20M and work WC1M on CW.  Then after hitting 
> enter and logging the QSO I notice I typed W1CM in error ( I am a 
> really crappy typist ) I should not be able to correct my typo?  Are 
> we measuring typing skills now?
>
> I guess my recording would verify that I copied, sent and worked WC1M 
> correctly.
>
>
>
> On 5/23/2015 3:15 PM, Dick Green WC1M wrote:
>>> Here is the proposed wording:
>>>
>>>   Correction of logged call signs and exchanges after a QSO is 
>>> complete - by
>>> using use of any database, recordings, email or other methods of 
>>> confirming
>>> QSOs - is not allowed.
>>>
>>> I don't see how that prohibits post-contest correction of typos and 
>>> the like.
>>> 73 jeff wk6i
>> Because "other methods" is so broad as to prevent you from looking at 
>> a call, realizing you got it wrong (say, based on experience or a 
>> list of active calls you saw before the contest) and changing it. 
>> Even a nanosecond after you hit Enter.
>>
>>   As worded, the change prohibits any editing of the log. The 
>> additional rule under Logging also prohibits most editing of the log, 
>> but it's more rational: what you log must match what you sent and 
>> received. This allows you to correct typos, provided the log matches 
>> what was sent and received (as, for example, recorded by you or the 
>> committee.)
>>
>> But the new wording in IX.9 eliminates the ability to correct typos, 
>> resulting in a potential penalty for busted copy and/or breaking the 
>> logging rule. In my opinion, there's no need for this change because 
>> the "log must match what was sent and received" standard is the 
>> correct one, and the previous wording of IX.9 prohibited any 
>> alteration of the log after the contest. If you sent and received 
>> everything correctly, but made a typo in your log, you could correct 
>> it during the contest in order to comply with the logging rule.
>>
>> 73, Dick WC1M
>>
>>
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>>
>> Gary K9GS
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