[CQ-Contest] Level Playing Field and Geography

[Joe]

When I read the e mail from Charlie and the Stew Perry, I sent him the 
below message, but now since others seem to think possibly the same way, 
hey what the heck here it is for everyone.

Hi Charley,
I have a new contest I was working on several years ago that I think you 
would have loved if I had a way to get it running to the general public.
The scoring is as you said Distance based AND difficulty based.
This is how it would have worked.

Everyone works anyone. Every QSO is worth something.

Multipliers were the maidenhead Grid Squares, Like  EN  or FN  or "OK" etc.

Now this is where the difficulty part enters.
Voice mode contacts multiply QSO point values by 1,  CW and all other 
Digital Modes Multiply QSO points by 2 CW and all the other "Digital" 
modes are thought of as a different mode. So a station can be worked on 
a Voice mode, and a CW, and also one of the Digital modes, so they can 
be worked 3 times per band.

QSO Points: I will use you location as an example.
On 160, 80, & 40 Meters:
A QSO with a station in "OK" square is worth 1 QSO point.
A QSO with any Square that Touches "OK"  IE: NL, OL, PL, NK, PK, NJ, OJ, 
PJ HAVE A VALUE OF 2 QSO points.
A QSO with all other squares are worth 3 QSO points.

NOW on 20, 15, & 10 Meters:
The difficulty reverses, it is MUCH more difficult to make a QSO close 
in on the higher bands. SO.......

A QSO with "OK" is worth the 3 QSO points,
A QSO with any Square that Touches "OK"  IE: NL, OL, PL, NK, PK, NJ, OJ, 
PJ HAVE A VALUE OF 2 QSO points.
A QSO with all other squares are worth 1 QSO points.

Thoughts?

Joe WB9SBD

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On 5/25/2015 9:04 PM, Charles Harpole wrote:
> Finally, I read the latest Stew Perry contest rules.
>
> Stew Perry rules are now my absolute favorite..... stressing real ham radio
> !   And scoring by distance!   Wow.
>
> Now, if only there were other contests with distance scores!
> Hey, Stew Perry guys, can I borrow your distance computation program to run
> on my own logs on other contests.
>
> Now to try to get on 160.  73, Charly
>


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On 5/25/2015 9:15 PM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
> This is interesting and is similar to the issue that NQ4I has raised
> for several years now.  Namely, that he is too far south to be
> competitive in a DX contest where working Europe is a must.  FWIW:
> even though I am a VE3, I am above Minnesota, and there is a big
> difference in propagation from here and other VE3's east of me.  So -
> for all intents, I too am disadvantaged in a DX contest like the CQWW.
>
> That said, I would like to repeat what I told Rick - NQ4I.  Start a
> NEW DX contest, with rules that you feel are fair to everyone in every
> part of the world.  If folks like the rules, they will come and play.
> If they don't - well - it will die a quick death.  Pick your
> weekend(s), and away you go.  Based on the tremendous (and growing)
> popularity of the CQWW, why mess with a good thing?  Leave it alone.
> Start a new contest, and see what happens...
>
> Tom - VE3CX
>
>
> On 5/25/15, Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
>> On Mon,5/25/2015 5:05 PM, Steve Sacco NN4X wrote:
>>> Perhaps all entries should be graded on a curve?  /sarc
>> A concept I've toyed with is for stations within each geographic region
>> are assigned a handicap based on how their scores compare to other
>> scores in the same region. For example, stations in W1 make a logical
>> region. ARRL sections SNJ, NLI, ENY, NNJ, WDC, DE, and EPA might make
>> another one. WNY, NNY, WPA, OH, MI, WV, and the ON sections might be
>> another. Canada east of VE3 another. And so on. A station's final score
>> in a contest would be adjusted based on a factor proportional to his
>> score and the average of all scores in his region.
>>
>> This simple concept (simple now, thanks to computing power) could be
>> part of leveling the playing field in a lot of contests. The other half
>> of it is changing the scoring rules so that more stations want to work
>> each other. This might involved redefining what counts as a multiplier,
>> or perhaps eliminating multipliers and going to distance-based scoring,
>> like the Stew Perry.
>>
>> K6XX, for example, has long suggested counting entities within the
>> European Union as a single multiplier. Don't like all those lovely EU
>> multipliers going away? How about call area multipliers for VK and ZL,
>> and multipliers for JA prefectures?
>>
>> All of these suggestions are VERY easily implemented with computers that
>> are on all of our desks. Heck -- I've seen scoring rules changes added
>> to N1MM Plus in a week! With this sort of change, CQWW actually BECOMES
>> a WW contest, rather than a party for the privileged class.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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