[CQ-Contest] Establishing a contest within a contest

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

Randy and I discussed the Classic overlay before it was announced. Alas, 
theCQ committee failed to to go the whole way and make the 24-hour 
limitation the *only* change from full-fledged.  I still fail to 
understand why Classic entrants should not be able to operate Assisted, 
or SO2R. If necessary, make them sub-categories. Us OFs will thank you!

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 11/13/2015 3:07 PM, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
> The CQ WW CLASSIC Overlay category is a great example of a contest within a
> contest.  There is certainly room for more Overlay options provided they
> will increase both activity and enjoyment.
>
> The IARU HF Championship serves as a platform for the WRTC competition.  As
> long as the CWAC is not working against the 'platform contest', there is no
> limit to the additional options for competition that may be created.
>
> The public CQ WW logs provide a very clean and substantial data set for
> anyone that wants to take on the programming task for creating their own
> CWAC.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Pete Smith N4ZR
>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 3:25 PM
>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com; Martin Durham
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Establishing a contest within a contest
>>
>> How much difference a decade makes!  Whenseveral of us suggested that we
>> implement a CWAC to try out a 24-hour category within CQWW, Bob Cox
>> angrily rejected the idea, saying that not a single QSO in a single CQWW
>> log would ever be released.
>>
>> How far we've come since! Now, if only the ARRL would adopt the open logs
>> concept, followed perhaps by the Russians and Germans, we'd have an ample
>> playing field for all sorts of experiments.
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
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>> On 11/13/2015 2:45 AM, James Latham wrote:
>>> " I will gently point out that nothing prevents you from doing that as
>>> a Contest Within A Contest right now.  As long as the contacts are
>>> valid under the CQ WW rules, you can score them any way you like and
>>> publish the results according to any criteria you can imagine.  If
>>> enough people care about the results of the CWAC, it will become
>>> popular.  If they don't, it won't.  The CQ WW will benefit from the
>>> activity and you will benefit from having tried something interesting
>> and new.  Go for it!
>>> 73, Ward N0AX"
>>>
>>> I think N0AX is spot on with his suggestion. Just set up a contest
>>> within a contest and test your ideas out, if your new contest works
>>> you will have a big start in establishing it as a free standing
>> contest.
>>> 73,  Jim   KP2XX
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