[CQ-Contest] Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted

[George K5KG]

When will this topic end?

73, George

On 11/24/2015 10:04 AM, Richard F DiDonna NN3W wrote:
> So by this measure, the following would make you assisted.
>
> Watching the weather during the contest - because the forecast wasn't 
> prepared by you.
>
> Looking at your list of xxxxHQ stations in the IARU test.
>
> Looking at NG3K's list of DXpeditions that you printed out before the 
> contest.
>
> Hell, if we're going to go down this road, then assistance means that 
> N1MM and Wintest is having EVERYONE be assisted by populating the 
> signal report field.
>
> As others mentioned, the contest sponsors have defined assistance as 
> information that gives you specific information regarding a frequency 
> and the callsign of the individual on that frequency.
>
> Having a list of calls is -not- providing assistance.  You still have 
> to copy the call correctly and you still have to copy the exchange 
> correctly.
>
> Just because you heard NN3 and you're provided with a list of calls 
> doesn't mean that its NN3W, NN3Q, NN2W, NN3RP, NN3V or NN3L.  You have 
> to decide (correctly) based upon information what is correct.
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/24/2015 1:49 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Disagree, Paul.
>>
>> I too think SCP is inappropriate for Unassisted operation, because SCP
>> uses information ... compiled by others ... gathered outside of
>> the actual event.  Lots of folks will use the argument that you still 
>> need
>> to copy the callsign to avoid errors and make sure you got it right, but
>> the fact is that you could rely almost exclusively on SCP to fill in the
>> last half of every callsign and still do quite well in scoring. That to
>> me is assistance.
>>
>> Doesn't matter, though ... the rules are what the contest sponsors say
>> they are until they decide differently.
>>
>> 73,
>> Dave   AB7E
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/23/2015 5:01 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2015 21:14, Stu Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Using Super Check Partial makes you assisted category in a contest.
>>>
>>> No - all relevant technology assists.  In essence, what distinguishes
>>> "assisted" from "unassisted" is that you connect to external networks,
>>> typically the cluster or RBN, to improve your score - benefiting from
>>> real-time spotting information from other operators or from remote
>>> receivers.
>>>
>>> When you're not connected (and not using CW skimmer), you're 
>>> unassisted.
>>>
>>> Rather than Assisted and Unassisted, the terms should be Connected and
>>> Unconnected.  Seems obvious to me :-)
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> For me going forward, I will submit my entries in the assisted
>>>> category whenever I use Super Check Partial – its clear that it helps
>>>> with accuracy and likely rate.
>>>
>>> Here are a few other things that help with accuracy and rate -
>>>
>>>   Contest Loggers
>>>   CW and voice keyers.
>>>   CTY.DAT for callsign identification.
>>>   Automatic antenna switching.
>>>   Filters
>>>   Panadaptors
>>>   Amps
>>>   Antennas
>>>
>>> The list is endless - all relevant technology assists, and
>>> SCP is no different (and very useful).  After all, it's
>>> another reference file, freely available to all before the
>>> contest and with no external updates during the contest.
>>>
>>> If anyone feels obliged to abstain from using SCP, wouldn't
>>> the same argument apply to using CTY.DAT (from AD1C)?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Paul EI5DI
>>>
>>>
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