[CQ-Contest] Who copies things any more?

[Robert Chudek - K0RC]

I was always under the "assumption" that the log checking software would 
catch and flag submission errors like this. I didn't count the QSOs in 
the W9IL log, but if there were 100 lines with "4", and W9IL's LCR 
showed 100 zone 5 errors, is there not a "quality check and report" that 
would have spotted and reported that inconsistency to the adjudicators?

I do understand it's the operators responsibility to submit accurate 
information, but. . .  And I do understand that all 100 stations who 
worked W9IL would be penalized equally, but. . . If enough of these 
types of human errors enter the log checking process, there certainly is 
some chance of an impact in a tightly contested category. That said, I 
did poorly in my statistics class so I can't offer any probabilities! :-)

So my question is: Is there a mechanism in the log checking / scoring 
process that tries to catch this type of issue?

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN

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On 4/9/2016 7:13 PM, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
> There are much better ways to report these issues than via the contest
> reflector.  A look at the public log reveals the problem.
>
> http://www.cqww.com/publiclogs/2015cw/w9il.log
>
> W9IL submitted a log showing all sent exchanges as zone 4.
>
> Computers are very happy doing simple checking.  They are not so smart to
> know when the input data is incorrect.
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Oliver Dröse
>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 9:47 PM
>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Who copies things any more?
>>
>> Same question/request goes to the log checkers! Or how else would such a
>> thing happen? ;-)
>>
>> *************** Incorrect Exchange Information ***************
>> 21045 CW 2015-11-29 1622 DH8BQA          14 W9IL             5 correct
>> 4
>>
>> This is the corresponding audio recording:
>> http://www.dh8bqa.de/cqwwcw2015audio/log/W9IL_de_DH8BQA_CQWWCW_CW_2015112
>> 9_162227Z_21MHz.mp3
>>
>>
>> Definitely copied correctly (my contest software defaulted to 4, had to
>> change it manually to 5) but the log checking software had it wrong! Not
>> that it would have made a big difference in the final ranking but still
>> there's some potential ... ;-)
>>
>> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
>>
>> Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de
>>
>>
>> Am 09.04.2016 um 15:49 schrieb Barry:
>>> Yup. I haven't lived in zone 5/PA for 7 years, and still see quite a
>>> few miscopied zone/state errors in my LCRs.  I am listed as a
>>> zone/state exception in the SCP file.  How hard is it to update it at
>>> least once a decade?  :-)
>>>
>>> Barry W2UP
>>>
>>> On 4/9/2016 06:47, Jim Stahl via CQ-Contest wrote:
>>>> A major congratulations of the CQWW crew for getting out the 2015
>>>> CQWW CW (and SSB) results out in such a timely manner!
>>>>
>>>> My log checking report was a very interesting reflection of the role
>>>> of computers in today’s contesting world. I operated QRP from our new
>>>> winter QTH in Florida (actually at a waterfront park, not our condo).
>>>> But to the computer world, I’m in zone 4, presumably back in Ohio.
>>>> Out of my 536 valid QSOs, 196 “copied” me in zone 4! An additional
>>>> six guys who miscopied my call also put me there.
>>>>
>>>> I expected a lot of such errors, as I could tell from the rhythm of
>>>> the QSO that a lot of people had not taken the extra second to type a
>>>> “5”. But the number of miscopies, or more precisely non-copies,
>>>> greatly exceeded expectations.
>>>>
>>>> I’ll be back in zone 4 in another week, so don’t move me permanently
>>>> to zone 5. Just copy what I send !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73  -  Jim    K8MR
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73 de Bob - KØRC in MN