[CQ-Contest] Who copies things any more?

[Oliver Dröse]

Randy,

there was some tongue in cheek intended below. I apologize if it might 
not have been clear enough below due to possible language trouble 
(chosen wrong words?). I appreciate all the work you and the team are 
putting into WWDX management.

Nevertheless I would expect that the log checking software would indeed 
be smart enough to find out there's something wrong if 120 guys get the 
same error (i.e. "wrong" zone logged) for the same contact and pop it up 
for some manual checking/actions. At least this is how it's handled 
during log-checking in several other contests (i.e. WAG) not to punish 
people for reasons beyond their sphere of influence.

As I said before, it would not have changed anything. Maybe that's the 
reason why you simply accept these cases - fine if it is a conscious 
decision.

73, Olli - DH8BQA

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de


Am 10.04.2016 um 02:13 schrieb Randy Thompson K5ZD:
> There are much better ways to report these issues than via the contest
> reflector.  A look at the public log reveals the problem.
>
> http://www.cqww.com/publiclogs/2015cw/w9il.log
>
> W9IL submitted a log showing all sent exchanges as zone 4.
>
> Computers are very happy doing simple checking.  They are not so smart to
> know when the input data is incorrect.
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Oliver Dröse
>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 9:47 PM
>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Who copies things any more?
>>
>> Same question/request goes to the log checkers! Or how else would such a
>> thing happen? ;-)
>>
>> *************** Incorrect Exchange Information ***************
>> 21045 CW 2015-11-29 1622 DH8BQA          14 W9IL             5 correct
>> 4
>>
>> This is the corresponding audio recording:
>> http://www.dh8bqa.de/cqwwcw2015audio/log/W9IL_de_DH8BQA_CQWWCW_CW_2015112
>> 9_162227Z_21MHz.mp3
>>
>>
>> Definitely copied correctly (my contest software defaulted to 4, had to
>> change it manually to 5) but the log checking software had it wrong! Not
>> that it would have made a big difference in the final ranking but still
>> there's some potential ... ;-)
>>
>> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
>>
>> Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de
>>
>>
>> Am 09.04.2016 um 15:49 schrieb Barry:
>>> Yup. I haven't lived in zone 5/PA for 7 years, and still see quite a
>>> few miscopied zone/state errors in my LCRs.  I am listed as a
>>> zone/state exception in the SCP file.  How hard is it to update it at
>>> least once a decade?  :-)
>>>
>>> Barry W2UP
>>>
>>> On 4/9/2016 06:47, Jim Stahl via CQ-Contest wrote:
>>>> A major congratulations of the CQWW crew for getting out the 2015
>>>> CQWW CW (and SSB) results out in such a timely manner!
>>>>
>>>> My log checking report was a very interesting reflection of the role
>>>> of computers in today’s contesting world. I operated QRP from our new
>>>> winter QTH in Florida (actually at a waterfront park, not our condo).
>>>> But to the computer world, I’m in zone 4, presumably back in Ohio.
>>>> Out of my 536 valid QSOs, 196 “copied” me in zone 4! An additional
>>>> six guys who miscopied my call also put me there.
>>>>
>>>> I expected a lot of such errors, as I could tell from the rhythm of
>>>> the QSO that a lot of people had not taken the extra second to type a
>>>> “5”. But the number of miscopies, or more precisely non-copies,
>>>> greatly exceeded expectations.
>>>>
>>>> I’ll be back in zone 4 in another week, so don’t move me permanently
>>>> to zone 5. Just copy what I send !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73  -  Jim    K8MR
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