[CQ-Contest] New hamvention location

Tue Aug 2 09:57:48 EDT 2016

Hi Rudy,

With utmost respect, I don't understand your sentiment.

You're offended Dayton is reduced to county fair status, but you weren't offended when it spent most of its life reduced to a sewage-infused fifth-tier hockey game?

I remember walking up to Hara for the first time quite disillusioned: the most important (at the time) ham radio gathering in the world is at a shit-hole like this? Seriously? That was 23 years ago.

And then I went on to have the time of my life.

Not sure the need to prejudge the new location.

And, I think the variety of comments here (move it to Vegas! Move it to Cinci! Move it to Columbus!, etc.) is a pretty good indication, aside from time being a major consideration, as to why DARA kept the consideration of a new facility in house. I'm sure the last thing they needed was the analysis paralysis that opening it up to a public forum would generate. 

It's the event that makes the event. Not the location.

73, kelly, ve4xt 

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> On Aug 2, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
> 
> See, the thing is that DARA never reached out us the ham community to seek help in finding a solution. They kept the transition a secret. For the very reason you pointed out- Dayton being the largest ham event in the world- you seek help when the event is in trouble.
> 
> I would've gladly contributed in whatever way I can to retain Dayton's status. I bet many others would do the same just like for WRTC2014. We don't need a glitzy venue, but do need an appropriate venue and location.
> 
> So, yes, I wish them all the best with the new venue. Really want them to preserve the spirit of Dayton.  But in 2017, I will be flying to Germany, not the Midwest as I don't wish to contribute to ham radio being diminished to a county fair.
> 
> Rudy N2WQ
> 
> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate autocorrect.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2016, at 1:47 AM, Radio KØHB <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Rudy, DARA has been staging the Dayton Hamvention since 1952.  It’s a local ham club, not a professional “event coordinator”.  A bunch of volunteers in a small Midwestern city, without a big glitzy “convention center”, without professional convention organizers, without a huge hotel room inventory, and burdened with a poor physical facility, have managed to keep the Hamvention (the largest ham gathering in the world) going for all of these years.
>> 
>> So now they’ve hit a rough spot in the road, losing their facility (such as it was), and have scrambled to replace it and keep the event alive. 
>> 
>> Since there is no other “DARA” out there volunteering to stand up a new organization in a better location, how about the ham community quit their cheap sniping from the sidelines, wish the boys and girls of DARA good luck in their transition, and make their reservations for next May.
>> 
>> That’s what I am doing.
>> 
>> 73, de Hans, KØHB
>> "Just a boy and his radio"™
>> 
>> From: Rudy Bakalov
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 4:53 AM
>> To: Radio K0HB
>> Cc: CQ-Contest
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] New hamvention location
>> 
>> Maybe I have been taking Dayton too seriously and wrongly compared it to other key ham radio events around the world, such as Friedrichshafen and Tokyo.  As such, right or wrong, I expect certain set of attributes, one of them being location.  Location is more than just the town/city, but also the actual venue.
>> 
>> Further, I have always considered Dayton the mother of all ham radio events in the USA. The Grand Prix of sorts.
>> 
>> So, yes, the thought of the Grand Prix of ham radio moved to this venue scares the heck out of me in terms of symbolism.  Makes me feel sad that ham radio is being reduced to a county fair type of event.
>> 
>> Rudy N2WQ
>> 
>> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate autocorrect.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 10:21 PM, Radio K0HB <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have no idea what Rudy's post is intended to communicate..
>> 
>> Typical schedule of events at a Midwest county fair in late summer. Winners move on up to the state fair.
>> 
>> How this relates to amateur radio boys and girls is a mystery to me.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 20:15 Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Looks like this is the perfect venue. The ham schedule of events fits very nicely and complements the current schedule. The vendors will certainly feel at home. For example:
>> 
>> MONDAY, August 1
>> 8:30 a.m. Breeding and meat rabbit show
>> 9:00 a.m.-10:00 a.m. Check-in for Swine Jackpot Show
>> 9:00 a.m. Nutrition Baking Contest
>> Followed by Best o f the Bakers *AB
>> 9:00 a.m.  Turkey show
>> 10:00 a.m.  Poultry and turkey showmanship
>> 10:00 a.m. Swine jackpot Show Barn 2
>> 11:30 a.m. Sign up for General Livestock Judging Contest-Hog Barn
>> 12 Noon General Livestock Judging Contest-Cattle Barn
>> 12 Noon Free hands-on activities for youth *AB - sponsored by 4-H
>> 4:00 p.m. Lamb homegrown show 
>> 4:30-5:30 p.m. Modeling Practice 
>> 5:00 p.m. Homegrown goat show 
>> 6:00 p.m. Goat judging contest
>> 6:30 p.m. Market lamb judging - sheep barn 
>> 7:00 p.m. Market hog judging - swine barn 
>> 7:00 p.m. 4-H Clothing Fashion Revue *AB 
>> 7:00 p.m. Dairy judging contest - cattle barn 
>> 7:30 p.m. Market beef judging - cattle barn 
>> 8:00 p.m. Dairy cattle exhibitor meeting
>> 8:00 p.m. SMASH IT Demo Derby *GS 
>> 8:00 p.m. Wyatt McCubbin *EC
>> 
>> TUESDAY, August 2
>> 8:30 a.m. 4-H/FFA Dairy cattle show and showmanship
>> 8:30 a.m. Goat Showmanship followed by Dairy, Production and Market Shows
>> 9:00 a.m. English Horse Show –Horse Arena
>> 10:00 a.m. Open dairy cattle show
>> 10:00 a.m. 4/H FFA Market Hog Show
>> 12 Noon    Watermelon eating contest *EC
>> 12 Noon   Free hands-on activities for youth *AB - sponsored by 4-H
>> 2:00 p.m. Table Setting Contest *AB
>> 2:30 p.m. Breeding Sheep Showmanship, Breeding Show, Market Lamb Showmanship, Pee Wee and Adult Showmanship, Open Market Lamb Show
>> 6:00 p.m. Grab for Cash *EC
>> 7:30p.m. Granger Smith with special guest Clark Manson GS
>> 
>> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate autocorrect.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Radio KØHB <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.whio.com/news/news/officials-to-announce-big-event-coming-to-greene-c/nr77W/
>> 
>> 73, de Hans, KØHB
>> "Just a boy and his radio"™
>> 
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