[CQ-Contest] May you work yourself at a remote?

[Larry]

I vaguely recall something in WW rules about not being an operator at 
more than one station but I am not at a place I can check it. I don't 
recall there was such a rule for other contests but that is just a very 
hazy recollection. It could just be faulty memory on my part.

It does seem to me that it would be a conflict of interest (of sorts) to 
be an operator at multiple stations. Of course, if I only operate for a 
few hours at a multiop station it seems a shame to waste the remainder 
of the contest time. Personally I would probably submit the home log as 
a checklog.

73, Larry  W6NWS

On 2/24/2016 1:57 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
> But, Tom, you could stay at home and participate as a member of the M/M via
> remote.
>
> Everyone looks at the downside -- there are so many positive sides.
>
> W7RN has a huge station, but his ops live far away.  Via remote, they can
> now staff the station.
>
> Are contesters happy that the VY1AAA mult is available much more often in
> contests?  I'd say that is a universal YES!
>
> I would have been glad to let a single op do VY1AAA last weekend... but no
> one came forward, and we wanted to put the mult on.
> I don't even care if the score counts -- we just wanted to put the
> multiplier on the air.
>
> During WRTC/IARU RadioSport, we did have six stations in the same room.
> Did we work each other?  You bet.  Not by passing "in the room",
> For example, I was operating PR1T, and I found a spot for SK3W, and called
> in like anyone else.  After the QSO, I did get a visual "thumbs up".
> Nothing nefarious.
>
> Yes, six ops could sit in the same room and operate from all continents --
> and it would be fine -- but it would not look good,
> especially if each op worked the other on six bands!.
>
> You can think up lots of crazy scenarios to make remote look bad.  But,
> today, top contesters are operating remotes
> with no particular advantage (In fact, it can be pretty darn challenging).
>
> By using remote, we are not trying to "game" the system... We are
> overcoming barriers to get on the air.
>
> The offer stands to anyone who is a good CW op (our preferred mode), and
> has RemoteRig/Elecraft gear:  We need to increase
> our operator team for VY1AAA.. the more we have it on, the better.  Contact
> me if you are interested.
>
> VY1AAA will be on for NAQP RTTY this weekend, W1UE operating.
> We will be on for ARRL DX SSB as well.
>
>
> 73, Gerry W1VE
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Tom Haavisto <kamham69 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Art
>>
>> Lets step back a bit, and see what is *technically possible - today*.
>>
>> A person could operate from all 40 zones in the CQWW - in one sitting, by
>> connecting to 40 different stations and operating remote.
>>
>>
>> Six ops - sitting in one room - could operate from six different continents
>> - at the same time.  I think we can all see a bunch of red flags with this,
>> but it is *technically* possible.
>>
>> A person could drive to a MM, and operate part of the contest.  Drive home,
>> and operate from home, using his own call.
>>
>>
>> The one way to address this would be: a person can only operate with one
>> call/contribute to one station for the duration of the contest.
>>
>> This way, if you are operating remote - you are committed to that operation
>> - for the duration of the contest.  New contest comes along - you are free
>> to "move" to a different location.
>>
>> The downside is - drive to a MM, operate a few hours - you can't go home
>> and operate...
>>
>>
>>
>> Just my two cents worth...
>>
>> Tom - VE3CX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Art Boyars <artboyars at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think I broached this subject before, but got no significant response.
>>> Conversation with some of the other op's at a M-M this past weekend, and
>>> seeing W1VE's 3830score post for ARRL DX CW prompts me try again.
>>>
>>> Let's say I'm in Winnipeg for RAC Canada Day contest -- VE4VTR (me) and
>>> VE4EA and a couple of other VE4 friends use VE4EA's station for a M-S
>>> effort.
>>>
>>> Let's say that VE4EA also realizes his hope of a concurrent remote
>>> operation -- say, part time -- of VY1AAA.  We're all in the same room.
>>>
>>> It sure would be easy for VE4VTR to know when/where to find VY1AAA. But
>>> let's keep it honest.  'VTR will go after the YT mult only when it's
>>> spotted, and 'AAA will not self-spot.
>>>
>>> So, 'VTR sees the spot, pounces on it, and calls VY1AAA.  The path is
>> poor,
>>> and copy is difficult, but thanks to ESP (and maybe copying the
>> transformer
>>> hum, like I used to do with my ARC-5) they make the QSO.
>>>
>>> Should that count?
>>>
>>> What if the remote worked only VE4VTR.  Is that not allpowed?  (I did not
>>> ask "unethical".  This question is about the rules as they now stand.)
>>>
>>> What if I operate both the local station and the remote station myself
>> for
>>> the QSO?  Should that count?
>>>
>>> 73, Art K3KU
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