[CQ-Contest] Open Letter to VE Contesters

Wed Feb 24 22:00:08 EST 2016

You want the ARRL to "level the playing field", whatever that means?

OK, so what have you done about it?

Have you contacted anyone at the Contest Branch?

Have you contacted your Division Representative on the Contest Advisory
Committee?

Have you contacted your Division Director?

Or, and no disrespect intended, are you waiting for mental telepathy to take
affect to get your point across?

In other words... are you expecting someone else to get the ball rolling?
Because if you feel that it's important enough, why haven't you done so?

What's that?  You posted on the reflector?  That's nice.  WE all now know,
more or less, what you'd like.  Now, exactly how does that translate to the
ARRL taking action?

...you know, on second thought, don't.  I don't see this as the big problem
you do, so I'd just as soon keep the status quo for now.  

73, ron w3wn

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
W0MU Mike Fatchett
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:13 PM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Open Letter to VE Contesters

Nothing will ever happen as there is no movement at the ARRL to level 
the playing field.  It is up to us to move to be competitive.

I find it very interesting that people will not even admit that it is a 
advantage.  If it was not a big deal I doubt any of you VE's would be 
defending yourselves so hard.  That you are speaks volumes for what it is.

W0MU

On 2/24/2016 5:40 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
> BTW, I forgot one thing in my last post.  If VY2ZM and all the other
bigger
> VE's are winning, (or you perceive that they are), I really doubt it has
> much at all with them occasionally (or even always!) sitting in a slightly
> quieter chunk of spectrum than you perceive you are in.
>
>   
>
> I personally believe that it's location & antennas  and then skill.  In
that
> order.
>
>   
>
> Take a look sometime where PEI is, what antennas the guys there use and
the
> decades of contesting experience they have (or any of the other guys I
have
> listed) and then you tell us if you think a few 10's of kHz
>
> of slightly quieter (only sometimes!) spectrum on a few phone bands really
> makes any appreciable OOF (order of finish) difference.   I expect you'll
> realize how small your request might possibly affect the outcome.  Are you
> really trying to ask something else as a veiled request?  I have to wonder
> out loud.
>
>   
>
> (You ever been up beside ex-Eastern Bloc stations running many kW's of
power
> + splatter>?  Sometimes it is nice; sometimes it's not.  There are many
> cleaner signals in the USA vs. EU.
>
>   
>
> The most they could hope to enjoy is a little less QRM or rubbing of
elbows
> with other louder stations (at times) south of the border (W/K).
>
>   
>
> I doubt VY2TT (for example) will tell you it's a paradise sitting down on
40
> phone rubbing elbows with LZ9W as 40m phone opens to EU.
>
>   
>
> Respectfully
>
>   
>
> Mike VE9AA
>
>   
>
> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>
> Keswick Ridge, NB
>
>   
>
> From: Mike Smith VE9AA [mailto:ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca]
> Sent: February 24, 2016 5:07 PM
> To: 'cq-contest at contesting.com'
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Open Letter to VE Contesters
>
>   
>
> This thread is bordering on the ridiculous. (At least there isn't name
> calling and mud slinging, which makes this somewhat more refreshing and
> amusing than tiring)
>
>   
>
> Essentially, someone in a RARE section in N. New England(VT.), fully
allowed
> to run 1500w is (basically) asking 2 USA guys (VY2TT(K6LA) and
VY2ZM(K1ZM))
> and a few other scattered VE2's and 3's (VA2WA, VE3EJ, VE3DZ) and Gus,
VO1MP
> for what? A chance to win an award in the ARRL DX?  Have you really read
> what you've written? If you have EVER (ever!!!) looked at awards for 90%
of
> contests, you'll see there are 10 or 20 awards for USA groups vs. Canada.
> In fact, often, Canada has none (or maybe one) award we all compete for.
I
> still cannot believe you are asking for this.
>
>   
>
> Personally I would much rather have 1500w at my disposal (as compared to
the
> 750w allowed) than the occasional foray into areas of the bands that USA
> stations are not allowed to go.  Or even a tower ! (I don't have one, but
I
> strongly suspect that I am not even on your radar ).or a seaside
> location...or some $$ for a real amp that'll do more than 500w...or or or?
> Never would it cross my mind to be so bold as to ask USA guys to crank it
> down to 750w on CW.
>
>   
>
> BTW, I don't always see 100% eye to eye with Ken, K6LA/VY2TT,(or anyone..I
> have my own opinions about things) but very much enjoyed his reply.  Well
> done Ken.
>
>   
>
> I do appreciate (and it's not lost on me) that we in VE get a little more
> spectrum to use, but those are the rules here.  Ya know what, sometimes
EU's
> (etc.) do not look for VE's outside the USA ranges/sub-bands. (why would
> they when 95% of the guys they are looking for are in a certain space on
the
> band)
>
>   
>
> Next thing you know, someone will be asking us all to operate in the JA
> window on 160m as that's the only place they are allowed to operate from.
> Or we all use 400w like they do in G land.  Or we run 20w like the PA
> novices are allowed.
>
>   
>
> HEE HEE
>
> I think I have heard it all now.
>
>   
>
> Mike VE9AA.not on anyones radar...
>
> p.s.- you want to talk fair?  Don't get me started on "MAR" vs. everyone
> else being allowed to send their own state or section within that state in
a
> few of the ARRL contests....no I won't go there.  I'll spare y'all, as I
> know you (collectively) could care less.
>
>   
>
> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>
> Keswick Ridge, NB
>
>   
>
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