[CQ-Contest] Your Call?

[Tom Haavisto]

There is one other aspect to also consider:

The guy IDs once per minute.  He ID's, but he is covered up by QRM.  As an
S&P guy, do you continue to wait, hoping for a second chance...?
Remember - you can't log the guy unless you have his call...  I figure if
the guy ID's every 2-3 Q's, things will work out fine, but as we have seen,
some don't.

I am sure this has happened to all of us - just wondering what others do in
this case?

Tom - VE3CX


On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt at mymts.net> wrote:

> I think if someone works a DX station and asks for the DX station's call,
> the DX station either provides the call, or loses the Q and gets a NIL.
>
> Steve's solution answers everybody's needs: a DX station with an
> unreasonable delay in IDing is given the chance to do the right thing, the
> calling station gets the Q and can move on and there's rightly a penalty
> imposed if the DX station refuses to supply his call sign.
>
> Best of all, there's no heavy hand of regulation involved.
>
> That said, the only thing making an S-and-P-er sit and wait on a DX
> station frequency is the S-and-P-er.
>
> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 25, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Marko L Myllymaki <
> marko.l.myllymaki at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > Yes I have heard that feedback and it is noted as I have mentioned.
> > I'm not fan of 1 min rule.  I think it is "overregulation".  Everyone
> > has that big knob on their radio and nobody needs to wait non-IDer.
> > But of course everyone gets excited of that unique zone they hear.
> > But 1 min rule is what we have now and need to try to live with it.
> > I'm sure I have slipped with it few times too for reasons mentioned
> > before.  I have operated at least one of the CQ WW contests in each of
> > the last 8 years somewhere where I have been double mult to most
> > participants.  In those places I know for fact that each time I send
> > my call there will be number of new callers coming to pile-up which
> > may already be difficult for me to handle with my own limited skills
> > (also on Sunday).  I'm just trying to optimize how many customers I
> > can serve, and as I did the travel I think I have some skin on the
> > game to decide how to do it.  As long as there is no rule requirement
> > to send call on each contact I will ignore noise for that wish.  I
> > personally hope such  rule is never implemented in CQ WW, but I'm
> > aware that I may be in minority based on the discussion I read on this
> > forum after every major contest.
> >
> >
> > Anyway maybe I think this is nowdays lesser problem for me on DX end
> > and might as well try send that call on each or more contacts as I
> > think in last couple years size of pile-up problem on that  DX end has
> > been by far masked by those constant callers and zero-beat callers.
> > Also, if listening from TX frequency it is probably better to send
> > that call each time anyway as if not it gets covered by callers as
> > soon as TU has been sent and nobody will hear the callsign when sent.
> > So if it is sent each time it would remove that issue since pile-up
> > knows that DX starts listening after callsign.  But given all issues
> > in more rare double mult QTH far away from target area for me at least
> > some small amount of split operating seems to be best way to get as
> > many customers served as possible at least with my own skill level.
> > That has been my conclusion.
> >
> >
> > Probably this is all I have to say at this time for this topic.
> >
> > 73 de Marko N5ZO
> >
> >
> >
> > On 02/24/2016 02:09 PM, Marko L Myllymaki wrote:
> >
> > I think both are good ways to handle it.  Also from DX station side who
> > does not ID.  If he does not ID he does not want/need you to enter into
> his
> > pile-up, he is busy already working down what he has.
> >
> > Especially on Sunday, I don't think it will add to your pileup if you ID
> more
> > frequently. Most of the people in the pileup already know who you are,
> > thanks to the use of spots. The unassisted guys that don't know who you
> are
> > have probably already worked you, and will happily move on when you sign
> > your call.
> >
> > In the interest of full honesty, I do not think you ID enough, Marko. I
> have
> > frequently had to wait uncomfortably long periods for you to ID. Maybe
> that
> > changed in 2015, with the new CQWW rules about IDing.
> >
> > 73,
> > Steve, N2IC
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