[CQ-Contest] Your Call?

[Kelly Taylor]

I think if someone works a DX station and asks for the DX station's call, the DX station either provides the call, or loses the Q and gets a NIL. 

Steve's solution answers everybody's needs: a DX station with an unreasonable delay in IDing is given the chance to do the right thing, the calling station gets the Q and can move on and there's rightly a penalty imposed if the DX station refuses to supply his call sign. 

Best of all, there's no heavy hand of regulation involved. 

That said, the only thing making an S-and-P-er sit and wait on a DX station frequency is the S-and-P-er. 

73, kelly, ve4xt 

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> On Feb 25, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Marko L Myllymaki <marko.l.myllymaki at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> Yes I have heard that feedback and it is noted as I have mentioned.
> I'm not fan of 1 min rule.  I think it is "overregulation".  Everyone
> has that big knob on their radio and nobody needs to wait non-IDer.
> But of course everyone gets excited of that unique zone they hear.
> But 1 min rule is what we have now and need to try to live with it.
> I'm sure I have slipped with it few times too for reasons mentioned
> before.  I have operated at least one of the CQ WW contests in each of
> the last 8 years somewhere where I have been double mult to most
> participants.  In those places I know for fact that each time I send
> my call there will be number of new callers coming to pile-up which
> may already be difficult for me to handle with my own limited skills
> (also on Sunday).  I'm just trying to optimize how many customers I
> can serve, and as I did the travel I think I have some skin on the
> game to decide how to do it.  As long as there is no rule requirement
> to send call on each contact I will ignore noise for that wish.  I
> personally hope such  rule is never implemented in CQ WW, but I'm
> aware that I may be in minority based on the discussion I read on this
> forum after every major contest.
> 
> 
> Anyway maybe I think this is nowdays lesser problem for me on DX end
> and might as well try send that call on each or more contacts as I
> think in last couple years size of pile-up problem on that  DX end has
> been by far masked by those constant callers and zero-beat callers.
> Also, if listening from TX frequency it is probably better to send
> that call each time anyway as if not it gets covered by callers as
> soon as TU has been sent and nobody will hear the callsign when sent.
> So if it is sent each time it would remove that issue since pile-up
> knows that DX starts listening after callsign.  But given all issues
> in more rare double mult QTH far away from target area for me at least
> some small amount of split operating seems to be best way to get as
> many customers served as possible at least with my own skill level.
> That has been my conclusion.
> 
> 
> Probably this is all I have to say at this time for this topic.
> 
> 73 de Marko N5ZO
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/24/2016 02:09 PM, Marko L Myllymaki wrote:
> 
> I think both are good ways to handle it.  Also from DX station side who
> does not ID.  If he does not ID he does not want/need you to enter into his
> pile-up, he is busy already working down what he has.
> 
> Especially on Sunday, I don't think it will add to your pileup if you ID more
> frequently. Most of the people in the pileup already know who you are,
> thanks to the use of spots. The unassisted guys that don't know who you are
> have probably already worked you, and will happily move on when you sign
> your call.
> 
> In the interest of full honesty, I do not think you ID enough, Marko. I have
> frequently had to wait uncomfortably long periods for you to ID. Maybe that
> changed in 2015, with the new CQWW rules about IDing.
> 
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
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