[CQ-Contest] contest restructing

Thu Jul 21 22:38:24 EDT 2016

At the risk of being contrarian for its own sake, I wonder what's different
about CQWW SSB, because there have been (relatively speaking) lots of
winners from outside of the east coast in that contest. Since 1970...

AI6V
K6AHV
K7RI
N2IC/5
N7DD
W6RR (3x)
W7RM
WM5G

Have won CQWW SSB.

Granted, K1AR has won something like 14 times in the same time period, but
I wonder what's up with SSB that makes it possible for non-W1/W2/W3/W4
stations to win when it's so rare in CW? All of the stations above were
competing with big east coast stations.

73,
Chris WF3C

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Radio K0HB <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Going back to 1948, only one station outside of W1/2/3/4 has ever won USA
> CW.
>
> CW
> Year Call Category Score QSOs Zn Cty Hours Operator(s)
> 2015 N5DX/2 SO HP ALL 9,961,955 5,097 159 526 48.0 @N2QV
> 2014 K3CR SO HP ALL 10,871,028 5,252 174 549 48.0 LZ4AX
> 2013 NN1N SO HP ALL 10,652,128 5,093 174 562 47.9
> 2012 K3CR SO HP ALL 9,875,565 4,609 171 578 46.6 LZ4AX
> 2011 K1DG SO HP ALL 10,189,365 4,795 163 582 45.3
> 2010 K5ZD/1 SO HP ALL 8,940,786 4,587 154 524 41.6
> 2009 K5ZD/1 SO HP ALL 6,845,832 3,957 132 480 45.1
> 2008 K1LZ SO HP ALL 6,796,620 3,922 133 486 46.8
> 2007 K5ZD/1 SO HP ALL 6,399,360 3,455 138 522 41.9
> 2006 K5ZD/1 SO HP ALL 8,188,086 4,120 159 540 -
> 2005 K5ZD/1 SO HP ALL 6,900,552 3,749 141 507 -
> 2004 K5ZD/1 SO HP ALL 6,070,659 3,204 154 523 -
> 2003 NT1Y SO HP ALL 6,797,675 4,090 142 493 - W4PA
> 2002 KT1V SO HP ALL 8,027,304 4,110 158 550 - NT1N
> 2001 K5ZD/1 SO HP ALL 7,048,856 3,790 157 510 -
> 2000 K5ZD/1 SO HP ALL 8,756,568 4,484 161 531 -
> 1999 W4AN SO HP ALL 8,279,616 4,301 175 521 -
> 1998 W1KM SO HP ALL 7,379,711 4,027 155 488 -
> 1997 K1AR SO HP ALL 7,681,280 4,047 158 522 -
> 1996 K5ZD/1 SO HP ALL 5,461,830 3,061 144 469 -
> 1995 W1KM SO HP ALL 5,127,270 3,178 136 418 -
> 1994 K5ZD/1 SO HP ALL 4,037,408 2,471 132 430 -
> 1993 K1KI SO HP ALL 5,603,364 2,867 153 523 -
> 1992 N4RJ SO HP ALL 5,851,152 2,966 172 509 - KM9P
> 1991 KM1H SO HP ALL 4,969,248 2,910 149 443 - KQ2M
> 1990 K1CC SO HP ALL 5,283,486 3,028 148 455 -
> 1989 K3TUP SO HP ALL 5,564,656 3,212 155 431 - K5ZD
> 1988 W1KM SO HP ALL 4,466,557 2,632 156 421 -
> 1987 K1EA SO HP ALL 3,961,980 2,608 144 378 -
> 1986 W1KM SO HP ALL 3,029,832 2,049 131 376 -
> 1985 K1AR SO HP ALL 3,397,905 2,398 120 363 -
> 1984 N2LT SO HP ALL 2,192,028 1,703 119 325 -
> 1983 W1KM SO HP ALL 2,699,775 1,837 130 376 -
> 1982 K1AR SO HP ALL 2,762,383 1,976 127 354 -
> 1981 K1GQ SO HP ALL 3,276,768 2,111 138 390 -
> 1980 K1AR SO HP ALL 2,830,730 1,986 139 351 -
> 1979 K1AR SO HP ALL 2,635,224 1,988 130 326 -
> 1978 W3RJ SO HP ALL 2,186,948 1,580 137 356 -
> 1977 W3LPL SO HP ALL 1,693,956 1,317 128 323 -
> 1976 W3LPL SO HP ALL 1,538,784 1,149 117 351 -
> 1975 W3LPL SO HP ALL 1,003,055 861 112 303 -
> 1974 W1BGD/2 SO HP ALL 1,133,847 936 125 304 -
> 1973 W3LPL SO HP ALL 1,069,265 945 117 278 -
> 1972 W3WJD SO HP ALL 1,527,500 1,121 134 336 -
> 1971 W1FBY SO HP ALL 1,163,160 1,016 119 286 - K1ZND
> 1970 K1KTH SO HP ALL 1,632,480 1,206 142 314 -
> 1969 W4YHD SO HP ALL 1,002,160 855 127 278 -
> 1968 W3GRF SO HP ALL 1,024,125 953 111 264 -
> 1967 K1DIR SO HP ALL 1,087,674 924 124 282 -
> 1966 W3GRF SO HP ALL 1,004,350 921 113 266 -
> 1965 W4KFC SO HP ALL 847,314 839 97 254 -
> 1964 W3GRF SO HP ALL 579,993 665 96 213 -
> 1963 W3GRF SO HP ALL 712,640 734 107 233 -
> 1962 W3GRF SO HP ALL 445,884 544 95 197 -
> 1961 W4KFC SO HP ALL 645,663 635 121 252 -
> 1960 W4YHD SO HP ALL 513,720 524 124 236 -
> 1959 W3GRF SO HP ALL 388,010 489 106 216 -
> 1958 W8JIN SO HP ALL 586,767 657 99 218 -
> 1957 W4KFC SO HP ALL 821,763 755 124 269 -
> 1956 W4KVX SO HP ALL 654,088 607 135 253 -
> 1955 W2HJR SO HP ALL 517,030 620 97 201 -
> 1954 W3OCU SO HP ALL 519,198 -
> 1953 W4KFC SO HP ALL 338,517 -
> 1952 W8JIN SO HP ALL 215,259 86 154 -
> 1951 W4KFC SO HP ALL 198,195 76 143 -
> 1950 W4KFC SO HP ALL 153,901 60 127 -
> 1949 W4KFC SO HP ALL 310,184 490 74 158 -
> 1948 W4KFC SO HP ALL 277,736 433 -
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 20:54 Chris Plumblee <chris.plumblee at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> CQWW SSB, at least, is not impossible for stations west of the Mississippi
>> to win. N5AU won M/M in the 1980's, and N2IC won SOABHP in 2013.
>>
>> I take no position on whether the rules of CQWW should be changed, but a
>> blanket statement like "there is no way for a west coast station to
>> compete
>> with one in the east coast. period" is not entirely accurate.
>>
>> 73, Chris WF3C
>>
>> On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Larry via CQ-Contest <
>> cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > hi guys,
>> >
>> >
>> > i have read quite a few ideas about restructuring the CQ WW. obviously
>> > there is a need to modernise this contest.
>> >
>> >
>> > preserving old scores is a foolish reason. present radios have -40 db
>> > compared to the plus 10 db of the older sets. antennas are now computer
>> > designed and on and on. there is no comparison between today's contest
>> and
>> > that of even 10 years ago.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > regards to the USA competition there is no way for a west coast station
>> to
>> > compete with one in the east coast. period.
>> >
>> >
>> > if you complain that very few young operators are joining our ranks
>> > consider the fact that quite a number of "contest stations" on the west
>> > coast have been organized in the last 15 years and all have quit after
>> > finding there is no way to win. forget the "fun", everyone wants to
>> win. no
>> > competition here versus the " big east coast three". there is no place
>> for
>> > the new and young operator to get experience. this is a contest for the
>> old
>> > men with experience and the rich who can provide a super station.
>> >
>> >
>> > contest directors please take note. change the structure of the CQ WW or
>> > the contest dies with us.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > larry
>> > n7dd
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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