[CQ-Contest] All the Assisted ops, where do they all come from?

[Aldewey at aol.com]

I am having trouble figuring out which suggestions are serious and which  
are "tongue in cheek" on this thread.
 
Clearly proposals to put guys not using the internet but who happen to be  
spotted by others into the "assisted" category can't be serious.   On the 
other hand, restricting guys who enjoy using assistance to only S&P  operation 
seem equally absurd. 
 
Although not perfect, I feel the current separation into assisted and  
unassisted seems to work.  I applaud the ARRL for renaming  the single operator 
categories that INCLUDE assistance to unlimited.
 
Personally, I enjoy both categories. For contests in which I am making a  
serious effort like ARRL SS, IARU, and RTTY RU, I prefer to operate and 
compete  in the unassisted category.  For most DX Contests in which I am normally 
 just participating (at least when operating as a single operator  from my  
average station), I prefer to use assistance.  I hope there will continue  
to be two categories in most contests.
 
73,
 
AL, K0AD
 
 
In a message dated 5/23/2016 9:23:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
wa5rtg at gmail.com writes:

Exactly  right Hans!

And why should the opinion of anyone but the thousands who  choose to 
operate unassisted even be considered in whether to eliminate their  category of 
choice and why do those who operate assisted even have an  opinion?  What is 
the reason they even care?  Is it because the  assisted category doesn't 
have the recognition they believe it deserves?   It is what it is.  

Can you imagine all the low and high power  operators saying they want to 
eliminate the QRP category saying they have  concern that too many QRP 
operators are really running 15 watts and not being  caught?  It does not affect 
them and they won't call for it.

The  notion of eliminating the only category remaining where someone uses 
his own  skills to operate his station to make contacts in a radio contest 
and require  that, in order to compete, he use the internet and assistance 
from others to  tell him where everyone is located is TOTALLY absurd.

73... Stan,  K5GO

> On May 22, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Radio K0HB  <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey, I got a better  idea!
> 
> How 'bout inverting that suggestion?
> 
>  Prohibit the point-and-click guys from running. Why should they have  
both
> sides of the coin, being able to run and also click on the band  map at 
will.
> 
> Sunuvagun!
> 
> De Hans, K0HB  [grinnin', duckin', & runnin'!]
> 
> 
>> On Sun, May  22, 2016 at 11:51 Oliver Dröse <droese at necg.de> wrote:
>>  
>> 
>>> Consider if a lonely Samoan native ham, running  a simple rig into a 
small
>>> dipole wants to make some contacts  in a DX contest. Since he is rare 
DX,
>>> and even if he didn't  call CQ, he would get spotted in a flash. Would 
you
>>> really  then consider him assisted? .
>> 
>> Definitely! Because of  him getting spotted he can make many more QSOs
>> than us average  Joe's in DL, W, PY, etc. If that isn't changing the game
>> then I  don't know ... ;-)
>> 
>> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
>>  
>> 
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