[CQ-Contest] Log what was sent

K9MA k9ma at sdellington.us
Mon Oct 3 22:51:22 EDT 2016

I remember years ago a guy in Florida who called me in the SP/TBDC.  He 
didn't know his grid, so I asked him for lat/long.  He didn't know that, 
but said he would look it up.  Later, he called me again, with 
lat/long.  I looked up his grid on the map and told him.  He sent it 
back, and I logged the QSO, for which I'm pretty sure I got credit.  
When it was all over, I logged what he sent, and it was the correct 
grid.  The only assistance involved was that (paper) grid map.  There 
was no communication with anyone or any computer outside my basement ham 
shack, other than that other op, so I'm pretty sure my SO unassisted 
integrity was preserved.  I don't know about the other op, as I did help 
him out, but I doubt it much troubled him.


Scott  K9MA

On 10/3/2016 18:24, Kelly Taylor wrote:
> It’s not usually that hard to get a contest Q out of someone, easier on SSB than CW, but…
> Where are you located? or Am I the first person you worked in the contest? takes little time and gets you what you need for your log. The guy goes away happy and you haven’t earned the wrath of another non-contester.
> Once the guy has honoured you by calling you, especially if you return the favour by responding, I think you own it to him to be courteous and try to make the QSO count.
> So what if you have to translate “fifty minutes outside Boston” to 5, or "yes, haven’t worked anyone else today” to 1?
> Is that any worse that changing ENN UNA to 599 291?
> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Christian Schneider <prickler.schneider at t-online.de> wrote:
>> Am 03.10.2016 um 20:51 schrieb George Fremin III:
>>> Ask them for their location. You can almost always quickly figure out
>>> their zone from their location. There are a few that will require a
>>> bit more probing.
>>> You might say "but I do not know where all the zones are" - there are
>>> maps and lists - have them handy and use them.  As you gain more
>>> experience you will learn them - so when a KL7 in Alaska calls in and
>>> sends 54 to you you can ask him if he is in Alaska and thus CQ zone
>>> 1. And even if he does not send zone 1 you should log it as zone
>>> 1. Once he tells you he is in Alaska you can log zone 1 since that is
>>> his correct zone.
>>> This is true for almost every contest.
>> Almost every contest??? There are more contests out than WWDX with its zones.
>> Subtract those contests using serial numbers, subtract those contests where there is no list (or no reliable list) for the "correct" exchange, subtract the contests which require or may require to log what was sent.
>>> And those of you that keep giving this bad advice - please stop.
>> I dare to oppose. Is it favourable to start lengthy discussions during a run which exchange the caller has to send? What good is it to press a casual to send 001 on and on? Altering a received exchange is courageous, to say the least. At least it seems too difficult for generalizing.
>> Chris DL8MBS
>> P.S.: At least in WAG it is not advisable to log what your database proposes to you from any "DOK-list" for German calls. Therefore a different advice: Better listen.
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Scott  K9MA

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