[CQ-Contest] R: WAE PHONE CONTEST FREQ, To be or not to be?
Saulius Zalnerauskas
ly5w.sam at gmail.com
Thu Sep 8 04:53:14 EDT 2016
Congrats Tonno,
I will be in contest anyway, and will not work in these segments. And will
spot every station with comment - "DQ-rules violation".
If somebody will work there and win over me (win? cheat - best word) it his
choice.
It would be lesson to WAE, WRTC and of course other "non-understable rules
contest's in future.
About this rule we were talking with S.K. DL8WPX, we were talking during
Friedrichshafen last year meeting with some DL well known operators.
But again nothing,........
WAE Contest (CW) is the best, (SSB) is fight.
Sam LY5W
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tonno Vahk wrote:
> Well, discussion is surely not useless if there is a rule that creates
> confusion and that the organizers have not been enforcing.
>
> We would surely welcome a clear statement by the organizers that as a
> minimum those QSOs in forbidden segments WILL be removed from the logs and
> repetitive intentional violation WILL lead to DQ.
>
> 73
> ES5TV
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest On Behalf Of Helmut Mueller
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:04 AM
> To: Matt IZ3EYZ - Matteo Marzilli; Lyubomir Slavov, OR2F
> Cc: Saulius Zalnerauskas; Cq-Contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: WAE PHONE CONTEST FREQ, To be or not to be?
>
> Dear friends.
>
> This discussion is absolutely useless. The rules say and MEAN do not use
> these areas. Full stop!
>
> If yo do so you are in danger of penalties or DQs.
>
> Last year we did not investigate this or did not DQ anyone and we have
> reason for that. No guarantee it is the same this year.
>
> Just read and play by the rules and you are fine.
>
> 73
>
> Helmut DF7ZS
> WAEDC Manager
>
>
>
>
> > "Lyubomir Slavov, OR2F" hat am 7. September 2016 um 22:43
> > geschrieben:
> >
> >
> > Hello Sam,
> >
> > there is a non-written rule, we should never expect to meet so clear as
> it
> > is pronounced :
> >
> > *"WORK FIRST - WORRY LATER !"*
> >
> > So, in accordance with the contest rules, you shouldn't run CQ in those
> > windows, but if you get someone there - do not hesitate to pounce over.
> >
> > Afterwards, if the "bad boy" goes DQ or gets any other penalty as a
> result
> > of the Committee's decision - either this will not affect your result,
> > either it will affect the results of all his correspondents there.
> >
> > And versa - if you skip any possible QSO within the mentioned segments,
> you
> > just reduce your own result :-)
> >
> > Good luck !
> >
> > 73,
> > Leo / OR2F
> >
> > On 7 September 2016 at 10:53, Matt IZ3EYZ - Matteo Marzilli <
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Sam,
> > >
> > > it would be wise if you first check the examples you publish for your
> > > theories the next time.
> > >
> > > If you work YV4YC on 7127 @04.10z and HC2AO on 7106 @04.20z and get
> QTCs
> > > from them on the same QRG, it doesn't mean all their previous QSOs they
> > > send
> > > back to you through QTCs took place on that QRG as well.
> > >
> > > For example this is taken from my WAE SSB 2015 log and you can easily
> check
> > > QRGs through independent sources (ie. CLX spots):
> > > QSO: 7174 PH 2015-09-12 0113 IR4X 59 0018 YV4YC 59
> > > 002
> > > (came back to my CQ)
> > > QSO: 7065 PH 2015-09-12 0307 IR4X 59 0109 HC2AO 59
> > > 049
> > > (by spot)
> > >
> > > Of course I don't know about the other Europeans and I couldn't care
> less
> > > but my QSOs with these stations took place within the allowed contest
> > > segments unlike you state something else.
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Messaggio originale-----
> > > Da: CQ-Contest Per conto di
> > > Saulius Zalnerauskas
> > > Inviato: martedì 6 settembre 2016 19.41
> > > A: Cq-Contest
> > > Oggetto: [CQ-Contest] WAE PHONE CONTEST FREQ, To be or not to be?
> > >
> > > Hi everybody,
> > >
> > > To be or not to be-that is the question:
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_be,_or_not_to_be
> > >
> > > This weekend another WRTC event. WAE DX Phone Contest. Very
> interesting and
> > > of course very important contest for those, who are qualyfying to be
> > > http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/qualification/selection-criteria-2
> > >
> > > Some Team Leaders now has guaranteed, some are with question. And this
> one
> > > can make a much difference in final tables.
> > >
> > > Let's read WAE Contest rules
> > > http://www.darc.de/der-club/referate/dx/contest/waedc/en/rules/ . You
> can
> > > see *SSB*: 3650-3700; 7050-7060; 7100-7130; 14100-14125; 14300-14350
> kHz.
> > >
> > > Try to imagine himself if You are one of those qualifiers. Station
> > > (multiplier) calling CQ Contest on 7.128 kHz. Everybody working them.
> > > Because - station is multiplier, so everyone is cheater?
> > >
> > > Read what happen if You doing this:
> > > Violation of the rules of the contest or unsportsmanlike conduct will
> be
> > > deemed sufficient cause for disqualification. The decisions of the
> > > contest-committee are final.
> > >
> > > But we go to results and if You are cheater - You are first in the
> World
> > > http://www.dxhf.darc.de/~mydxhf/dxhfdb/urkunde/urkunde.
> > > php?call=px5e&jahr=20
> > > 15&contest=WAESSB
> > >
> > > Well my dear friends, let's take a look to my last year LOG:
> > > QSO: 7128 PH 2015-09-12 0002 LY5W 59 0005 PX5E 59
> > > 0010
> > > QSO: 7124 PH 2015-09-12 0003 LY5W 59 0006 PX2A 59
> > > 0015
> > > PX2A - 2nd World
> > > http://www.dxhf.darc.de/~mydxhf/dxhfdb/urkunde/urkunde.
> > > php?call=px2a&jahr=20
> > > 15&contest=WAESSB
> > > and much more, but those Brasilian stations are in IARU region 3
> working
> > > with Europeans in IARU R1 :)
> > >
> > > Ok, let's go next:
> > > QSO: 7127 PH 2015-09-13 0410 LY5W 59 0403 YV4YC 59
> > > 0011
> > > QTC: 7127 PH 2015-09-13 0411 LY5W 1/10 YV4YC
> 0112
> > > LZ5K 0043
> > > QTC: 7127 PH 2015-09-13 0411 LY5W 1/10 YV4YC
> 0113
> > > IR4X 0018
> > > QTC: 7127 PH 2015-09-13 0412 LY5W 1/10 YV4YC
> 0117
> > > DL5L 0047
> > > QTC: 7127 PH 2015-09-13 0412 LY5W 1/10 YV4YC
> 0119
> > > SK3W 0039
> > > QTC: 7127 PH 2015-09-13 0412 LY5W 1/10 YV4YC
> 0149
> > > DJ7WW 0057
> > > QTC: 7127 PH 2015-09-13 0412 LY5W 1/10 YV4YC
> 0200
> > > I2VRN 0074
> > > QTC: 7127 PH 2015-09-13 0413 LY5W 1/10 YV4YC
> 0201
> > > DJ7EO 0053
> > > QTC: 7127 PH 2015-09-13 0413 LY5W 1/10 YV4YC
> 0404
> > > F4DXW 1213
> > > QTC: 7127 PH 2015-09-13 0413 LY5W 1/10 YV4YC
> 0405
> > > DL1NKS 0132
> > > QTC: 7127 PH 2015-09-13 0414 LY5W 1/10 YV4YC
> 0407
> > > DC4A 0349
> > > or
> > > QTC: 7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W 5/10 HC2AO
> 0259
> > > RT4F 0106
> > > QTC: 7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W 5/10 HC2AO
> 0302
> > > OE6Z 0065
> > > QTC: 7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W 5/10 HC2AO
> 0303
> > > YT9M 0018
> > > QTC: 7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W 5/10 HC2AO
> 0305
> > > LZ5K 0082
> > > QTC: 7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W 5/10 HC2AO
> 0305
> > > OK7M 0028
> > > QTC: 7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W 5/10 HC2AO
> 0305
> > > UA2F 0057
> > > QTC: 7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W 5/10 HC2AO
> 0306
> > > DL5L 0066
> > > QTC: 7106 PH 2015-09-12 0421 LY5W 5/10 HC2AO
> 0306
> > > LY9A 0039
> > > QTC: 7106 PH 2015-09-12 0421 LY5W 5/10 HC2AO
> 0307
> > > IR4X 0109
> > > QTC: 7106 PH 2015-09-12 0421 LY5W 5/10 HC2AO
> 0308
> > > EI7M 0062
> > > etc etc
> > >
> > > and try to calculate how many cheaters You found now from Europe. And
> they
> > > are WRTC participants.
> > > So where is fair play?
> > >
> > > What to do? Explain please.
> > >
> > > To be stupid and pretend that nothing is happening, or follow the
> rules and
> > > remain in last place fool Sam LY5W
> > > http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/qualification/
> > > standings-2?value=ly5w&tas
> > > k=callsign
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