[CQ-Contest] [DX-IS] Re: "D1WW"

Ron Notarius W3WN wn3vaw at verizon.net
Tue Sep 13 20:42:46 EDT 2016

The simple fact of the matter that the D1 call in question, as well as
others, are being used by actual stations on the air.
They are not busted calls.  "Busted" in terms of miscopied, that is.
Therefore, IMHO, the Skimmer programs should pass them along... because
that's what is sent.
Leave it in the hands of the operator reading the Skimmer feed(s) to decide
whether or not they wish to work the station(s) in question.  And regardless
of the political status (or lack thereof) of the governing regime and it's
status (or lack thereof) in the international community at large, outside of
the realm of Amateur Radio.

73, ron w3wn


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To: Mats Strandberg
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Subject: [DX-IS] Re: [CQ-Contest] "D1WW"


OK, let's put this to bed. Regardless of what I believe,   I should not have
termed the Donetsk regime to be "illegal" on a ham forum - as has been amply
pointed out, this isn't the place either to condemn or defend what Russia
has done.

But... let's be very clear.   The RBN *is not and will not* "adjudicate"
anything.   We rely entirely on CW Skimmer, Skimmer Server, and RTTY Skimmer
Server to make decisions on what to spot. 

I have just discussed this with Alex, and now understand his approach.   The
Skimmer programs do indeed contain code that excludes any calls that are not
on the ITU allocation table from being spotted.   However, a few exceptions
are made, based solely on whether a station is active on the ham bands - for
example, 1A, 1B and Z6 calls are spotted.   

We'll just have to wait and see. 

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 9/13/2016 2:38 PM, Mats Strandberg wrote:

	Dear fellow international ham friends!

	Please Do not  mix  political games into our nice  hobby please.

	Ukraine has rejected any support to Lugansk and Donetsk regions (no
support to schools, retired persons, people in need of hospital care).

	Ukraine has no control of territories who explained themselves
independent from Kiev.

	Russia has now control of Crimea, YES. We might like it or not like
it - but it is fact. But Russia does not rule Donetsk or Lugansk. They rule

	For new hams in Donetsk and Lugansk, who should issue valid
licenses? Kiev? Don't think so.... Moscow ? No! Then we would not have D1
prefix, but UA....

	As said before, leave politics out of our worldwide friendship hobby
without borders.

	Our hobby should not be governed from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW,
right? Our hobby is international.... No borders!

	If RBN exclude D1, then RBN is a political megaphone...

	73 de RM2D (SM6LRR), Mats

	PS Maybe RBN should exclude RM2D also? As he is a non politically
correct Swede who have the courage to operate from Russia???

	On Tuesday, 13 September 2016, Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr at contesting.com>

		Recently I received a complaint from Konstantin, whose
"call" is D1WW, saying that the RBN did not recognize his call.   It turns
out there is a reason - he is in the part of eastern Ukraine that has been
illegally seized by the Russians, and the D1 prefix is not recognized by the
		I assume that he will turn up on the bands and maybe in
contests this fall, so I thought it was worth letting people know in
advance. He sent me a copy of his "license" if anyone wants to see it.
		73, Pete N4ZR
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