[CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC

[Ria Jairam]

To me the whole thing seems a bit inconsistent. I've seen rules violations
aplenty that were unnoticed, like stations calling for hours out of band,
7125 LSB in ARRL DX there was a top north east station who did less than 10
years ago, no penalties. Meanwhile something based on seemingly shaky
evidence gets a DQ?

The NFL can show us video replays that they make calls on. Clearly it works
for them. I don't see transparency as a bad thing, unless the original
poster is correct, in that this is really an unfair decision designed to
penalize some and not others.

Ria
N2RJ

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:57 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:

> Because I do not want the methods of they way they are finding cheaters
> exposed so that the cheaters can modify their behavior to beat the checks.
>
> Cheating is real it happens far too much and I am willing to bet that many
> people are still getting away with stuff.
>
> Either you trust those in charge or you don't.  If you don't then don't
> operate.
>
> If people would not cheat we would not be having this discussion.
>
> Asking friends to spot you is assistance.  Asking others in a contest to
> spot you is assistance.  Don't do it.
>
> W0MU
>
>
>
> On 2/21/2017 4:31 PM, Roberto Rey wrote:
>
>> I don't really agree with your assessment Jeff. Aren't we all friends
>> here? Why can't I discuss what happened to me with my fellow contesters? Is
>> the contest committee the "Enlightened Ones" that never make a mistake?
>>
>> If I have nothing to hide and feel mistreated I will go and tell someone:
>> Hey this happenend to me.. can you believe it? And the ones to tell my
>> story are my fellow contestors. Now if I am a fat cheater and get caught,
>> wouldn't I just go and hide under the first rock I find and not make any
>> noise? But I have not cheated I will make some noise and make my case be
>> heard!
>>
>> I for one think there is something brewing in these DQs and somehting has
>> to been done... Where there's smoke, there's fire...
>>
>> 73 de Rob HK3CW
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Clarke" <ku8e at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "CQ-Contest Reflector" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 4:07 PM
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC
>>
>>
>>
>>> I think this is at least the 3rd time I can think of that someone who
>>> has been disqualified in a CQWW contest that has tried to plead their case
>>> on the contest reflector. This isn't the correct forum to do that and I
>>> don't think you're going to get you much sympathy. The issue should be
>>> private between the contest adjudicator and the station in question. I know
>>> in the past they have been willing to work with a station who they suspect
>>> broke the rules and maybe persuade them have their submitted log
>>> reclassified as a check log.
>>> We are hearing only one side of the story when the accused party posts
>>> something on the reflector criticising the contest sponsor. How do we
>>> really know what they are saying is really true? I'm not saying that the
>>> person in question broke a rule purposely. It could be something as simple
>>> as not understanding the rules that can get you DQed.
>>> The CQWW Contest committee consists of a bunch of well respected
>>> contesters that have been doing this a long time. They aren't going to go
>>> and DQ anyone for making one mistake. I believe when they see a pattern
>>> that is inconsistent with the rules is when they consider a DQ.
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
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