[CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC

Ria Jairam rjairam at gmail.com
Tue Feb 21 20:17:13 EST 2017

To me the whole thing seems a bit inconsistent. I've seen rules violations
aplenty that were unnoticed, like stations calling for hours out of band,
7125 LSB in ARRL DX there was a top north east station who did less than 10
years ago, no penalties. Meanwhile something based on seemingly shaky
evidence gets a DQ?

The NFL can show us video replays that they make calls on. Clearly it works
for them. I don't see transparency as a bad thing, unless the original
poster is correct, in that this is really an unfair decision designed to
penalize some and not others.


On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:57 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:

> Because I do not want the methods of they way they are finding cheaters
> exposed so that the cheaters can modify their behavior to beat the checks.
> Cheating is real it happens far too much and I am willing to bet that many
> people are still getting away with stuff.
> Either you trust those in charge or you don't.  If you don't then don't
> operate.
> If people would not cheat we would not be having this discussion.
> Asking friends to spot you is assistance.  Asking others in a contest to
> spot you is assistance.  Don't do it.
> W0MU
> On 2/21/2017 4:31 PM, Roberto Rey wrote:
>> I don't really agree with your assessment Jeff. Aren't we all friends
>> here? Why can't I discuss what happened to me with my fellow contesters? Is
>> the contest committee the "Enlightened Ones" that never make a mistake?
>> If I have nothing to hide and feel mistreated I will go and tell someone:
>> Hey this happenend to me.. can you believe it? And the ones to tell my
>> story are my fellow contestors. Now if I am a fat cheater and get caught,
>> wouldn't I just go and hide under the first rock I find and not make any
>> noise? But I have not cheated I will make some noise and make my case be
>> heard!
>> I for one think there is something brewing in these DQs and somehting has
>> to been done... Where there's smoke, there's fire...
>> 73 de Rob HK3CW
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Clarke" <ku8e at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "CQ-Contest Reflector" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 4:07 PM
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC
>>> I think this is at least the 3rd time I can think of that someone who
>>> has been disqualified in a CQWW contest that has tried to plead their case
>>> on the contest reflector. This isn't the correct forum to do that and I
>>> don't think you're going to get you much sympathy. The issue should be
>>> private between the contest adjudicator and the station in question. I know
>>> in the past they have been willing to work with a station who they suspect
>>> broke the rules and maybe persuade them have their submitted log
>>> reclassified as a check log.
>>> We are hearing only one side of the story when the accused party posts
>>> something on the reflector criticising the contest sponsor. How do we
>>> really know what they are saying is really true? I'm not saying that the
>>> person in question broke a rule purposely. It could be something as simple
>>> as not understanding the rules that can get you DQed.
>>> The CQWW Contest committee consists of a bunch of well respected
>>> contesters that have been doing this a long time. They aren't going to go
>>> and DQ anyone for making one mistake. I believe when they see a pattern
>>> that is inconsistent with the rules is when they consider a DQ.
>>> Jeff
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