[CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC

[Barry]

The NFL is a business with a very large budget.

Barry W2UP

On 2/21/2017 18:17, Ria Jairam wrote:
> To me the whole thing seems a bit inconsistent. I've seen rules violations
> aplenty that were unnoticed, like stations calling for hours out of band,
> 7125 LSB in ARRL DX there was a top north east station who did less than 10
> years ago, no penalties. Meanwhile something based on seemingly shaky
> evidence gets a DQ?
>
> The NFL can show us video replays that they make calls on. Clearly it works
> for them. I don't see transparency as a bad thing, unless the original
> poster is correct, in that this is really an unfair decision designed to
> penalize some and not others.
>
> Ria
> N2RJ
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:57 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:
>
>> Because I do not want the methods of they way they are finding cheaters
>> exposed so that the cheaters can modify their behavior to beat the checks.
>>
>> Cheating is real it happens far too much and I am willing to bet that many
>> people are still getting away with stuff.
>>
>> Either you trust those in charge or you don't.  If you don't then don't
>> operate.
>>
>> If people would not cheat we would not be having this discussion.
>>
>> Asking friends to spot you is assistance.  Asking others in a contest to
>> spot you is assistance.  Don't do it.
>>
>> W0MU
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/21/2017 4:31 PM, Roberto Rey wrote:
>>
>>> I don't really agree with your assessment Jeff. Aren't we all friends
>>> here? Why can't I discuss what happened to me with my fellow contesters? Is
>>> the contest committee the "Enlightened Ones" that never make a mistake?
>>>
>>> If I have nothing to hide and feel mistreated I will go and tell someone:
>>> Hey this happenend to me.. can you believe it? And the ones to tell my
>>> story are my fellow contestors. Now if I am a fat cheater and get caught,
>>> wouldn't I just go and hide under the first rock I find and not make any
>>> noise? But I have not cheated I will make some noise and make my case be
>>> heard!
>>>
>>> I for one think there is something brewing in these DQs and somehting has
>>> to been done... Where there's smoke, there's fire...
>>>
>>> 73 de Rob HK3CW
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Clarke" <ku8e at bellsouth.net>
>>> To: "CQ-Contest Reflector" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 4:07 PM
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think this is at least the 3rd time I can think of that someone who
>>>> has been disqualified in a CQWW contest that has tried to plead their case
>>>> on the contest reflector. This isn't the correct forum to do that and I
>>>> don't think you're going to get you much sympathy. The issue should be
>>>> private between the contest adjudicator and the station in question. I know
>>>> in the past they have been willing to work with a station who they suspect
>>>> broke the rules and maybe persuade them have their submitted log
>>>> reclassified as a check log.
>>>> We are hearing only one side of the story when the accused party posts
>>>> something on the reflector criticising the contest sponsor. How do we
>>>> really know what they are saying is really true? I'm not saying that the
>>>> person in question broke a rule purposely. It could be something as simple
>>>> as not understanding the rules that can get you DQed.
>>>> The CQWW Contest committee consists of a bunch of well respected
>>>> contesters that have been doing this a long time. They aren't going to go
>>>> and DQ anyone for making one mistake. I believe when they see a pattern
>>>> that is inconsistent with the rules is when they consider a DQ.
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
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