[CQ-Contest] 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC

[Peter Dougherty (W2IRT)]

So long as you can put a common-sense rule in place that you're not
self-spotting after every 5 Qs or something. I'd be very happy with a rule
that allows one self-spot every 30 minutes or upon changing frequencies more
than 3kHz from your last spot. I would also like to see a rule change to
allow you to ask a caller who works you to please spot you (again, subject
to some reasonable time limit).

I find it very disheartening to go to the trouble of finding a run frequency
in an SSB contest only to CQ to dead air because nobody spots me, meanwhile
all the guys from <country> are spotting all their friends whose runs never
stop.

Both measures would go an awful long way to helping out the medium sized
guys with less than perfect stations, especially.

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Peter, W2IRT

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-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Dave Edmonds
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:43 PM
To: n2ic at arrl.net
Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC

I totally agreement with Steve. Additionally it's very difficult to police
then to prove. As a contest manager, we recently allowed it for the SCQP and
more contacts will be the result.  Dave WN4AFP

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl at gmail.com> wrote:

> On CW, we already have the equivalent of self spotting, thanks to CW 
> Skimmer and the RBN. It's virtually impossible to NOT be spotted. CW 
> Skimmer/RBN is the great equalizer - you no longer have to depend on a 
> network of friends to spot you.
>
> We wouldn't be having this discussion if there was a SSB Skimmer. 
> Right now, we have a system where "those with the right friends" have 
> an advantage. Why not simply allow self spotting on SSB ?
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
> On 02/22/2017 12:22 PM, Bob Henderson wrote:
>
>> Having myself met with unfair and unjustified treatment at the hands 
>> of RDXC adjudicators I can empathise with those claiming unfair 
>> treatment in adjudication.  However in this case having looked at the 
>> information supplied and done a little further digging, I am unsure 
>> my empathy is justified.
>>
>> 3V8SS it seems acknowledges cheer-leading by his fellow Tunisians 
>> KG5OUE and F4HJD but claims not to have encouraged it.  I am inclined 
>> to believe him, given some of my own friends have spotted me during 
>> contests and I have NEVER, that is NOT EVER, asked anyone to do so.
>>
>> That said, HB9EOU appears to be rather more than a random contact 
>> with Switzerland.  Last year HB9EOU operated in the IOTA contest from 
>> 3V8SM on Djerba Island AF-083 along with F4HJD.  Ash (3V8SS) + F4HJD 
>> + 3V8CB had activated 3V8SM from Djerba Island a couple of months
earlier.
>>
>> The recording of the contact with HB9EOU seems odd, though the events 
>> not entirely inexplicable but small circles in which the same calls 
>> crop up repetitively raise questions.  Perhaps it's all an 
>> extraordinary coincidence but there is enough doubt for me to wonder 
>> whether my empathy might have been misplaced.
>>
>> Bob, 5B4AGN
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:48:33 -0600
>> From: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra at sasktel.net>
>> To: "'Ashraf Chaabane'" <ash.kf5eyy at gmail.com>, "'cq-contest'"
>>          <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and
>>          WRTC
>> Message-ID: <E976655BE7DB448B8806659C02036C2C at DOUG8PC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> After reading your post and based on your response to the committee, 
>> I would conclude that Bob, W5OV; Doug, KR2Q; Scott, W4PA are 
>> nitpickers with an agenda.
>> If anything valid is further introduced to support the committee's 
>> decision, then I would revise my opinion. As it stands, I believe you 
>> were unfairly DQd.
>> Doug
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Ashraf Chaabane
>> Sent: February-22-17 7:34 AM
>> To: cq-contest
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB 
>> and WRTC
>>
>> Mike, Ria and all,
>>
>> I put online the CC accusations (their native emails) and my responses:
>>
>> http://www.kf5eyy.info/3V8SS_WWSSB16_DQ.htm
>>
>> I think that allows everyone to read from both sides. Now it's up to 
>> you to comment!
>>
>> 73
>> --
>> Ash ~ 3V8SS/KF5EYY
>> http://www.kf5eyy.info/
>> Phone/SMS: (+216) 22670026
>> Skype: kf5eyy
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