[CQ-Contest] 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC

[Ria Jairam]

I would allow self spotting once per hour or once per frequency change more
than 3kHz. That would be reasonable.

Ria, N2RJ

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) <
contesting at w2irt.net> wrote:

> So long as you can put a common-sense rule in place that you're not
> self-spotting after every 5 Qs or something. I'd be very happy with a rule
> that allows one self-spot every 30 minutes or upon changing frequencies
> more
> than 3kHz from your last spot. I would also like to see a rule change to
> allow you to ask a caller who works you to please spot you (again, subject
> to some reasonable time limit).
>
> I find it very disheartening to go to the trouble of finding a run
> frequency
> in an SSB contest only to CQ to dead air because nobody spots me, meanwhile
> all the guys from <country> are spotting all their friends whose runs never
> stop.
>
> Both measures would go an awful long way to helping out the medium sized
> guys with less than perfect stations, especially.
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> GO FRC!
> Peter, W2IRT
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Dave Edmonds
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 1:43 PM
> To: n2ic at arrl.net
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC
>
> I totally agreement with Steve. Additionally it's very difficult to police
> then to prove. As a contest manager, we recently allowed it for the SCQP
> and
> more contacts will be the result.  Dave WN4AFP
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On CW, we already have the equivalent of self spotting, thanks to CW
> > Skimmer and the RBN. It's virtually impossible to NOT be spotted. CW
> > Skimmer/RBN is the great equalizer - you no longer have to depend on a
> > network of friends to spot you.
> >
> > We wouldn't be having this discussion if there was a SSB Skimmer.
> > Right now, we have a system where "those with the right friends" have
> > an advantage. Why not simply allow self spotting on SSB ?
> >
> > 73,
> > Steve, N2IC
> >
> > On 02/22/2017 12:22 PM, Bob Henderson wrote:
> >
> >> Having myself met with unfair and unjustified treatment at the hands
> >> of RDXC adjudicators I can empathise with those claiming unfair
> >> treatment in adjudication.  However in this case having looked at the
> >> information supplied and done a little further digging, I am unsure
> >> my empathy is justified.
> >>
> >> 3V8SS it seems acknowledges cheer-leading by his fellow Tunisians
> >> KG5OUE and F4HJD but claims not to have encouraged it.  I am inclined
> >> to believe him, given some of my own friends have spotted me during
> >> contests and I have NEVER, that is NOT EVER, asked anyone to do so.
> >>
> >> That said, HB9EOU appears to be rather more than a random contact
> >> with Switzerland.  Last year HB9EOU operated in the IOTA contest from
> >> 3V8SM on Djerba Island AF-083 along with F4HJD.  Ash (3V8SS) + F4HJD
> >> + 3V8CB had activated 3V8SM from Djerba Island a couple of months
> earlier.
> >>
> >> The recording of the contact with HB9EOU seems odd, though the events
> >> not entirely inexplicable but small circles in which the same calls
> >> crop up repetitively raise questions.  Perhaps it's all an
> >> extraordinary coincidence but there is enough doubt for me to wonder
> >> whether my empathy might have been misplaced.
> >>
> >> Bob, 5B4AGN
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:48:33 -0600
> >> From: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra at sasktel.net>
> >> To: "'Ashraf Chaabane'" <ash.kf5eyy at gmail.com>, "'cq-contest'"
> >>          <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and
> >>          WRTC
> >> Message-ID: <E976655BE7DB448B8806659C02036C2C at DOUG8PC>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> After reading your post and based on your response to the committee,
> >> I would conclude that Bob, W5OV; Doug, KR2Q; Scott, W4PA are
> >> nitpickers with an agenda.
> >> If anything valid is further introduced to support the committee's
> >> decision, then I would revise my opinion. As it stands, I believe you
> >> were unfairly DQd.
> >> Doug
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Ashraf Chaabane
> >> Sent: February-22-17 7:34 AM
> >> To: cq-contest
> >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB
> >> and WRTC
> >>
> >> Mike, Ria and all,
> >>
> >> I put online the CC accusations (their native emails) and my responses:
> >>
> >> http://www.kf5eyy.info/3V8SS_WWSSB16_DQ.htm
> >>
> >> I think that allows everyone to read from both sides. Now it's up to
> >> you to comment!
> >>
> >> 73
> >> --
> >> Ash ~ 3V8SS/KF5EYY
> >> http://www.kf5eyy.info/
> >> Phone/SMS: (+216) 22670026
> >> Skype: kf5eyy
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