[CQ-Contest] Self Spotting
W0MU Mike Fatchett
w0mu at w0mu.com
Sun Feb 26 11:33:24 EST 2017
and when there are few contacts to me made or found, people stop looking
and do something else.
W0MU
On 2/26/2017 10:04 AM, Ed K1EP wrote:
> "The point of contests should be to make lots of contacts. "
>
> Not necessarily. The point for some, is to FIND lots of contacts, not
> just make them. Everyone is different. When single op, I don't use
> spotting or packet, I prefer the challenge. When at a MM, I adapt to
> whatever the setup, but I still turn the knob to find contacts more
> than clicking.
>
> On Feb 26, 2017 10:49 AM, "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu at w0mu.com
> <mailto:w0mu at w0mu.com>> wrote:
>
> I am very surprised that nobody has created a huge multi user
> version of DR. DX for the internet. I would be great fun. DR. DX
> was pretty amazing for the time. I know there is a modern day
> equivalent but it has not been implemented on a large scale where
> everyone is tied together, scoreboard, etc.
>
> This is one reason that Ham radio is having problems attracting
> and getting people on the air. You can engage with people all
> over the globe very easily and for free. No huge towers or
> investments needed. Talking to someone in Russian, Germany,
> Japan, or wherever is much more common today. I probably have
> more foreign friends on Facebook than I do local.
>
> Radiosport and ham radio are about having fun and learning for
> me. Sitting and calling endless CQ's on RTTY is not fun. The
> point of contests should be to make lots of contacts. If the
> rules are reducing the amount of contacts then we have failed. Are
> more contacts made when packet is allowed? I think so. NAQP RTTY
> last night might be an example. Packet is discouraged and I
> noticed a number of people that were discouraged from the contest
> for just that reason.
>
> There is nothing magical, mystical or fantastic about unassisted
> anymore. For me it is something that has become archaic, old and
> very much behind the times. I have a buggy for my draft horse and
> it is fun to drive now and then but I much prefer to hop in my
> pickup truck to get around town. Many of the rules are difficult
> at best to enforce, power, packet, etc and then when the rules are
> enforced the decisions of the organizers are criticized when there
> has been no real proof provided by either side.
>
> Interesting times we are in.
>
> W0MU
>
>
>
>
> On 2/26/2017 6:21 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote:
>
> Why don't we just skip the radio part and just work each other
> in a chat
> room. That would be the fairest right?
>
>
> Radiosport is ABOUT communicating over the airwaves and
> putting what we hear
> in the log. Not about accepting what the bandmap populated
> and hitting
> enter. Its also about the technical challenge of producing a
> good loud
> signal and being able to hear. Otherwise its essentially
> gaming. There are
> lots of outlets for people wanting to game.
>
>
> I was CQing on 160 last night and had 2 EU stations call me
> that clearly
> could not hear me but were broadcasting a Q (faking it), from
> the spot, to
> try and get the Vermont Mult into the log. I can hear them
> with my
> beverages no problem.
>
>
> I personally think Self Spotting is the end of contesting as
> we know it and
> should NEVER be allowed.
>
>
> At least with the RBN, a radio does have to pick you up to put
> it on the
> net.
>
>
> Until there is an SSB RBN, the effort should be for fairer
> spotting. The
> easiest way is for the major contest clubs around the world to
> implore their
> members to set the "spot all S & P" on their software programs
> and for that
> to be the default position for programs going forward. How
> hard is that?
>
>
> Ed N1UR
>
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