[CQ-Contest] Self Spotting

W0MU Mike Fatchett w0mu at w0mu.com
Sun Feb 26 11:33:24 EST 2017

and when there are few contacts to me made or found, people stop looking 
and do something else.


On 2/26/2017 10:04 AM, Ed K1EP wrote:
> "The point of contests should be to make lots of contacts. "
> Not necessarily. The point for some, is to FIND lots of contacts, not 
> just make them. Everyone is different. When single op, I don't use 
> spotting or packet, I prefer the challenge. When at a MM, I adapt to 
> whatever the setup, but I still turn the knob to find contacts more 
> than clicking.
> On Feb 26, 2017 10:49 AM, "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu at w0mu.com 
> <mailto:w0mu at w0mu.com>> wrote:
>     I am very surprised that nobody has created a huge multi user
>     version of DR. DX for the internet.  I would be great fun.  DR. DX
>     was pretty amazing for the time.  I know there is a modern day
>     equivalent but it has not been implemented on a large scale where
>     everyone is tied together, scoreboard, etc.
>     This is one reason that Ham radio is having problems attracting
>     and getting people on the air.  You can engage with people all
>     over the globe very easily and for free.  No huge towers or
>     investments needed.  Talking to someone in Russian, Germany,
>     Japan, or wherever is much more common today.  I probably have
>     more foreign friends on Facebook than I do local.
>     Radiosport and ham radio are about having fun and learning for
>     me.  Sitting and calling endless CQ's on RTTY is not fun.  The
>     point of contests should be to make lots of contacts.  If the
>     rules are reducing the amount of contacts then we have failed. Are
>     more contacts made when packet is allowed?  I think so.  NAQP RTTY
>     last night might be an example.  Packet is discouraged and I
>     noticed a number of people that were discouraged from the contest
>     for just that reason.
>     There is nothing magical, mystical or fantastic about unassisted
>     anymore.  For me it is something that has become archaic, old and
>     very much behind the times.  I have a buggy for my draft horse and
>     it is fun to drive now and then but I much prefer to hop in my
>     pickup truck to get around town. Many of the rules are difficult
>     at best to enforce, power, packet, etc and then when the rules are
>     enforced the decisions of the organizers are criticized when there
>     has been no real proof provided by either side.
>     Interesting times we are in.
>     W0MU
>     On 2/26/2017 6:21 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote:
>         Why don't we just skip the radio part and just work each other
>         in a chat
>         room.  That would be the fairest right?
>         Radiosport is ABOUT communicating over the airwaves and
>         putting what we hear
>         in the log.  Not about accepting what the bandmap populated
>         and hitting
>         enter.  Its also about the technical challenge of producing a
>         good loud
>         signal and being able to hear.  Otherwise its essentially
>         gaming.  There are
>         lots of outlets for people wanting to game.
>         I was CQing on 160 last night and had 2 EU stations call me
>         that clearly
>         could not hear me but were broadcasting a Q (faking it), from
>         the spot, to
>         try and get the Vermont Mult into the log.  I can hear them
>         with my
>         beverages no problem.
>         I personally think Self Spotting is the end of contesting as
>         we know it and
>         should NEVER be allowed.
>         At least with the RBN, a radio does have to pick you up to put
>         it on the
>         net.
>         Until there is an SSB RBN, the effort should be for fairer
>         spotting.  The
>         easiest way is for the major contest clubs around the world to
>         implore their
>         members to set the "spot all S & P" on their software programs
>         and for that
>         to be the default position for programs going forward. How
>         hard is that?
>         Ed  N1UR
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