[CQ-Contest] Ea8's banned from RBN? Hmmm

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Please  check my post again, I NEVER SAID EA8´s ARE BANNED FROM RBN. I know how it works RBN and i use from 2010 or 2011 what im saying it is different. Im talking about the LPL BRIDGE from RBN to Classic cluster. 

I copy this comment by Ria Jairam:
"""In CW contests, RBN and private skimmers will automatically pick you up and
spot you on the cluster networks, courtesy of W3LPL and others. This is
essentially the same as self-spotting because nobody has to work you for
you to be spotted, and as soon as you are detected by one of these robots
(RBN or skimmer) you are automatically put on the cluster.""""

And this is my opinion: 

>>My 1st email.

This is quite interesting, talking about unfair.....
Uncommon  DXCC countries are usually spotted in this way, specially OC, AS, SA, Africa. 

It is quite frustrating when you're running in a contest and every 10 minutes there are spots from other countries of your continent but you don't !!!  

Example:  ALL African stations are spotted in this way EXCEPT EA8 !!!

The EA8s are banned from the system I don't know why, but it is very easy to check. 

I trough to qualify to WRTC, I miss some log and I didn't work all time all contest, but all these things are by my fault but there it is another circumstances.....I check how ALL other stations from AF are automatically spotted every 10 min and no EA8 stations are spotted. 
It is this self-spotting? 
It is this CQoIP? 
Should them be DQ? 

For me it is just unfair, we haven't all the same opportunities to be spotted. We have to be all or no one, but no few ones, in this way it is UNFAIR. 


73 !!


>>My 2nd email

Hello Jim and Mike. 

For dx, multiOP and assisted i always use VE7CC without filters, i really like how it works.

What i really mean it is as LPL and others take spots from RBN and send to the classic system, the all time cluster.  They filter what DXCC will be spotted from RBN to classics cluster, and that's it can be a great tool for dxing but not for contesting. 

Stations from rare locations will be spotted every 10 minutes and other from the same zone will be not spotted, never ever :((. That's what i feel like unfair. All the stations will not spotted in the same level on the classics clusters, and that will bring a great advantage to few ones against another ones. 

If you check  https://dxheat.com/db/W3lpl/ you can see how there it is 59583 spots from African stations, a 13% of LPL total spots, well there it is no one from EA8.

If we are in a competition and im spotted and you not, there will be a difference in the results too, and we are not in the same game. 

Im not against LPL system, it is very useful, but shouldn't be filtering stations during a contest, so all or no one have to be spotted, if there will be too much stations from RBN to classics one, in that way it can be OFF during contest time or just spotting WARC bands. 

What you will think If there are  59583 spots from your continent competitors and 0 from you?  
Do you think it is a fair game for everyone in the same continent? 

TNX and 73 de Juan
EA8RM / EF8R 
EF8U Manager 




COMMENT: I hope will be clear im not talking about EA8´s are banned from RBN, i´m talking about EA8´s are banned in the bridge from RBN to the classic cluster by LPL system, this is an dissadvantage.

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> El 27 feb 2017, a las 22:56, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca> escribió:
> 
> N1EN says".Keep in mind EA8's aren't banned from RBN.."
> 
> 
> 
> EA8RM says (in part)". The EA8s are banned from the system I don't know why,
> but it is very easy to 
> 
> check.."
> 
> 
> 
> From Mike VE9AA:
> 
> Juan, 
> 
> 
> 
> I am not sure where you got your information from, and I am not an authority
> on the RBN by any means, but I find that statement quite odd indeed !
> 
> You can check this out yourself and prove that it's just not true my friend.
> (I did a search myself of EA8's and see 100 CW and RTTY spots from several
> EA8's just this afternoon in the past couple hours alone.
> 
> 
> 
> Go to some band that is open. (20m in the daytime, 40m in the evening). 
> 
> Pick a clear frequency.
> 
> Use a good antenna and normal power and call CQ EA8RM TEST 4 or 5 times.
> (all at the same speed)
> 
> Repeat a couple times on the same frequency just to be sure.
> 
> 
> 
> Go to: http://www.reversebeacon.net/srch.php
> 
> Type in EA8RM. Hit enter.
> 
> I am sure the page will be full from all over EU or NA (or both, depending
> on your power, antenna, prop,e tc).
> 
> 
> 
> Try it.
> 
> 
> 
> GL !
> 
> 
> 
> CU in the next contest.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike VE9AA
> 
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