[CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 SSB logs now public

Barry w2up at comcast.net
Sat Jan 7 16:26:22 EST 2017


I find it interesting how a few non- or barely active contesters, like 
K0HB, always stir up such a ruckus with a contrarian view.

Barry W2UP

On 1/7/2017 13:46, John Dorr wrote:
>   Hi Steve,
>
> In response to your request for an example: UT5UGR
>
> http://cqww.com/blog/ut5ugr-log-padding-in-cq-ww/
>
> Speaking purely as a private citizen, I can assure you that no log checking
> group has achieved perfection. All log checkers can benefit from an outside
> set of eyes to: 1) vet checking errors and 2) identify bad actors that
> remain undetected. We got real lucky in the case of UGR, whose years of
> cheating would have gone without penalty had it not been for the
> availability of open logs.
>
> Keep this in perspective guys; you're not being asked to post your tax
> returns or brokerage statements.
>
> 73, John, K1AR
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 3:28 PM, <steve.root at culligan4water.com> wrote:
>
>>   The crux of the matter of course is what actually constitutes an
>> actiionable "issue". I'd like to see a clear cut example of a discrepancy
>> in a log that would lead to an action by the contest sponsor....a
>> discrepany that wasn't found by normal log checking procedures. Anything
>> else has a high probability of being a witch hunt. False accusaions of
>> cheating will lead to acrimony.
>>
>> 73 Steve K0SR
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DXer [mailto:hfdxmonitor at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 08:17 AM
>> To: kzerohb at gmail.com, kr2q at optimum.net, cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 SSB logs now public
>>
>> I had the same uneasy feeling, Hans.It sounded like a call for the
>> 'vigilantes' to go to work.If some 'issue' is found, it has to be dealt
>> with of course, but the approach to achieve this was not the best.73 de
>> Vince, VA3VFOn 2017-01-06 10:37 PM, kzerohb at gmail.com wrote:> Doug, this
>> is possibly the most disturbing message that I have ever seen on this
>> reflector.>> Essentially you, wearing your “Director of CQWW” hat, have
>> gone out to the worldwide fraternity of Amateur Radio sportsmen and
>> said…..>> “Hey, guys, here are the logs of everybody who played in this
>> Amateur Radio contest. Would you please be a good citizen and have a look
>> to see if you can find some cheaters among your fellow hams in there. We
>> look forward to your result, Comrades. Here’s a special mailbox.”>> I
>> really wanted to help MWA in the club competition, so I sent in a small
>> log. Probably too small to worry you about, but have a look anyhow. Because
>> it’s the last one I’ll submit.>> 73, de Hans, KØHB> "Just a boy and his
>> radio"™>> From: kr2q at optimum.net> Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 2:09
>> AM> To: cq-contest at contesting.com> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 SSB
>> logs now public>>> Please see http://cqww.com/publiclogs/2016ph/>> For
>> the last two years, the contest community has used the public logs to
>> assist the CQWW Contest Committee in finding possible “issues” with some of
>> the logs. We look forward to your feedback again this year.>> You may send
>> your findings and concerns to: questions at cqww.com>> Please base your
>> findings and concerns on an actual log review and not simply on your
>> suspicions.>> Thank you!_______________________________________________CQ-Contest
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