[CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 SSB logs now public

[Yuri]

Hi Barry.
Exactly my feeling. What in the LOG with just a hundred Q's might be so private that it shouldn't be open. I assure you that 99.9 % of such LOGs are not even being looked at.
Paranoia? 

Yuri

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From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 4:26 PM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 SSB logs now public

I find it interesting how a few non- or barely active contesters, like K0HB, always stir up such a ruckus with a contrarian view.

Barry W2UP

On 1/7/2017 13:46, John Dorr wrote:
>   Hi Steve,
>
> In response to your request for an example: UT5UGR
>
> http://cqww.com/blog/ut5ugr-log-padding-in-cq-ww/
>
> Speaking purely as a private citizen, I can assure you that no log 
> checking group has achieved perfection. All log checkers can benefit 
> from an outside set of eyes to: 1) vet checking errors and 2) identify 
> bad actors that remain undetected. We got real lucky in the case of 
> UGR, whose years of cheating would have gone without penalty had it 
> not been for the availability of open logs.
>
> Keep this in perspective guys; you're not being asked to post your tax 
> returns or brokerage statements.
>
> 73, John, K1AR
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 3:28 PM, <steve.root at culligan4water.com> wrote:
>
>>   The crux of the matter of course is what actually constitutes an 
>> actiionable "issue". I'd like to see a clear cut example of a 
>> discrepancy in a log that would lead to an action by the contest 
>> sponsor....a discrepany that wasn't found by normal log checking 
>> procedures. Anything else has a high probability of being a witch 
>> hunt. False accusaions of cheating will lead to acrimony.
>>
>> 73 Steve K0SR
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DXer [mailto:hfdxmonitor at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 08:17 AM
>> To: kzerohb at gmail.com, kr2q at optimum.net, cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 SSB logs now public
>>
>> I had the same uneasy feeling, Hans.It sounded like a call for the 
>> 'vigilantes' to go to work.If some 'issue' is found, it has to be 
>> dealt with of course, but the approach to achieve this was not the 
>> best.73 de Vince, VA3VFOn 2017-01-06 10:37 PM, kzerohb at gmail.com 
>> wrote:> Doug, this is possibly the most disturbing message that I 
>> have ever seen on this reflector.>> Essentially you, wearing your 
>> “Director of CQWW” hat, have gone out to the worldwide fraternity of 
>> Amateur Radio sportsmen and said…..>> “Hey, guys, here are the logs 
>> of everybody who played in this Amateur Radio contest. Would you 
>> please be a good citizen and have a look to see if you can find some 
>> cheaters among your fellow hams in there. We look forward to your 
>> result, Comrades. Here’s a special mailbox.”>> I really wanted to 
>> help MWA in the club competition, so I sent in a small log. Probably 
>> too small to worry you about, but have a look anyhow. Because it’s 
>> the last one I’ll submit.>> 73, de Hans, KØHB> "Just a boy and his 
>> radio"™>> From: kr2q at optimum.net> Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 
>> 2:09
>> AM> To: cq-contest at contesting.com> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 
>> AM> SSB
>> logs now public>>> Please see http://cqww.com/publiclogs/2016ph/>> 
>> For the last two years, the contest community has used the public 
>> logs to assist the CQWW Contest Committee in finding possible 
>> “issues” with some of the logs. We look forward to your feedback 
>> again this year.>> You may send your findings and concerns to: 
>> questions at cqww.com>> Please base your findings and concerns on an 
>> actual log review and not simply on your suspicions.>> Thank 
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