[CQ-Contest] PJ4G ARRL DX SSB Recording by N2IC

[Ria Jairam]

Never understood that myself...

THAT is something I'd like to see addressed. SO2R is essentially almost as
advantageous as multi-op.

This, IMO, is more "unfair" than a few people using unclaimed assistance
and entering as SO unassisted.

Ria
N2RJ

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:45 AM, N2TK, Tony <tony.kaz at verizon.net> wrote:

> So if using twice the spectrum, which I agree, why are SO2R and SO1R in the
> same category? One could be running on two bands while the other can only
> run one band at a time.
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Martin Durham
> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:30 PM
> To: Barry <w2up at comcast.net>
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] PJ4G ARRL DX SSB Recording by N2IC
>
> That's not using two frequencies?? A good SO2R is cqing on one freq and
> either dueling CQs on a second freq or working multi. If time right
> transmits and receives make this a finely choreographed dance. Absolutely
> SO2R is using twice the spectrum that a SO1R is using.
>
> Marty
> W1MD
>
> > On Mar 13, 2017, at 9:21 PM, Barry <w2up at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > SO2R ops aren't using two freqs.  They are CQing on one and answering
> stations on another freq already in use by someone else.
> >
> > Barry W2UP
> >
> >> On 3/13/2017 14:59, Martin Durham wrote:
> >> Not the issue. SO2R wouldn't be on a second frequency if it were not
> producing contacts.
> >>
> >> SO2R operators have twice the spectrum use of SO1R.
> >>
> >> THAT is the advantage. Why do multi ops exists?  To sit on a frequency
> calling CQ into dead air??
> >>
> >> I've been doing multi operator contests for over 30 years.
> >>
> >> Marty
> >> W1MD
> >>
> >> On Mar 13, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Ria Jairam
> <rjairam at gmail.com<mailto:rjairam at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Not necessarily since propagation varies widely within that space.
> >>
> >> Ria
> >> N2RJ
> >> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:46 PM Martin Durham
> <W1md at w1md.net<mailto:W1md at w1md.net>> wrote:
> >> Hmmmmmm
> >>
> >> What if you look at the spectrum as 1.8 - 30mhz. One station cq'ing
> >> on two frequencies is using twice the spectrum.  Regardless of the
> >> 'band' you are on. Riiiight??  :)
> >>
> >> SO2R operators effectively get to use twice the spectrum that SO1R
> operators use...right?
> >>
> >> Marty
> >> W1MD
> >>
> >>> On Mar 13, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Ria Jairam
> <rjairam at gmail.com<mailto:rjairam at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Some bands are more limited in space than others.
> >>> 40m - 75kHz
> >>> 20m - 200kHz
> >>> 15m -  250kHz
> >>> 10m - 1.4MHz
> >>>
> >>> Some bands are more productive than others, depending on propagation.
> >>>
> >>> So with two CQs by one station on the same band the station engaging
> >>> in this practice takes up twice the space and denies others the use
> >>> of the productive or limited space band.
> >>>
> >>> CQing on two bands is different because the other band may not be as
> >>> productive, and even underused in low solar years.
> >>>
> >>> Ria
> >>> N2RJ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM john at kk9a.com<mailto:john at kk9a.com>
> <john at kk9a.com<mailto:john at kk9a.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> As far as spectrum usage goes what is the difference between this
> >>>> and a single op CQing on two bands?
> >>>>
> >>>> KK9A
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> To:     cq-contest at contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>>> Subject:        Re: [CQ-Contest] PJ4G ARRL DX SSB Recording by N2IC
> >>>> From:   W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com<mailto:w0mu at w0mu.com>>
> >>>> Date:   Mon, 13 Mar 2017 08:32:05 -0600
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the comments. I agree with your interpretation of the
> >>>> rules, I don't like that it is allowed and like many have asked the
> >>>> ARRL to close this loophole.
> >>>>
> >>>> Many believe that if everyone adopted this philosophy that the band
> >>>> would be a mess. People would have a very difficult time finding a
> >>>> place to CQ unless you were a big gun etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73 and thanks for all the contacts from everywhere!
> >>>>
> >>>> W0MU
> >>>>
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