[CQ-Contest] PJ4G ARRL DX SSB Recording by N2IC

[Martin Durham]

Thank you Tony. :)

One large elephant delivered into the room. 



Marty
W1MD

> On Mar 14, 2017, at 10:47 AM, N2TK, Tony <tony.kaz at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> So if using twice the spectrum, which I agree, why are SO2R and SO1R in the
> same category? One could be running on two bands while the other can only
> run one band at a time.
> N2TK, Tony  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Martin Durham
> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:30 PM
> To: Barry <w2up at comcast.net>
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] PJ4G ARRL DX SSB Recording by N2IC
> 
> That's not using two frequencies?? A good SO2R is cqing on one freq and
> either dueling CQs on a second freq or working multi. If time right
> transmits and receives make this a finely choreographed dance. Absolutely
> SO2R is using twice the spectrum that a SO1R is using. 
> 
> Marty
> W1MD
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2017, at 9:21 PM, Barry <w2up at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> SO2R ops aren't using two freqs.  They are CQing on one and answering
> stations on another freq already in use by someone else.
>> 
>> Barry W2UP
>> 
>>> On 3/13/2017 14:59, Martin Durham wrote:
>>> Not the issue. SO2R wouldn't be on a second frequency if it were not
> producing contacts.
>>> 
>>> SO2R operators have twice the spectrum use of SO1R.
>>> 
>>> THAT is the advantage. Why do multi ops exists?  To sit on a frequency
> calling CQ into dead air??
>>> 
>>> I've been doing multi operator contests for over 30 years.
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> W1MD
>>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Ria Jairam
> <rjairam at gmail.com<mailto:rjairam at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not necessarily since propagation varies widely within that space.
>>> 
>>> Ria
>>> N2RJ
>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:46 PM Martin Durham
> <W1md at w1md.net<mailto:W1md at w1md.net>> wrote:
>>> Hmmmmmm
>>> 
>>> What if you look at the spectrum as 1.8 - 30mhz. One station cq'ing 
>>> on two frequencies is using twice the spectrum.  Regardless of the 
>>> 'band' you are on. Riiiight??  :)
>>> 
>>> SO2R operators effectively get to use twice the spectrum that SO1R
> operators use...right?
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> W1MD
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 13, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Ria Jairam
> <rjairam at gmail.com<mailto:rjairam at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Some bands are more limited in space than others.
>>>> 40m - 75kHz
>>>> 20m - 200kHz
>>>> 15m -  250kHz
>>>> 10m - 1.4MHz
>>>> 
>>>> Some bands are more productive than others, depending on propagation.
>>>> 
>>>> So with two CQs by one station on the same band the station engaging 
>>>> in this practice takes up twice the space and denies others the use 
>>>> of the productive or limited space band.
>>>> 
>>>> CQing on two bands is different because the other band may not be as 
>>>> productive, and even underused in low solar years.
>>>> 
>>>> Ria
>>>> N2RJ
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM john at kk9a.com<mailto:john at kk9a.com>
> <john at kk9a.com<mailto:john at kk9a.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as spectrum usage goes what is the difference between this 
>>>>> and a single op CQing on two bands?
>>>>> 
>>>>> KK9A
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> To:     cq-contest at contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>>> Subject:        Re: [CQ-Contest] PJ4G ARRL DX SSB Recording by N2IC
>>>>> From:   W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com<mailto:w0mu at w0mu.com>>
>>>>> Date:   Mon, 13 Mar 2017 08:32:05 -0600
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the comments. I agree with your interpretation of the 
>>>>> rules, I don't like that it is allowed and like many have asked the 
>>>>> ARRL to close this loophole.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many believe that if everyone adopted this philosophy that the band 
>>>>> would be a mess. People would have a very difficult time finding a 
>>>>> place to CQ unless you were a big gun etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73 and thanks for all the contacts from everywhere!
>>>>> 
>>>>> W0MU
>>>>> 
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