[CQ-Contest] PJ4G ARRL DX SSB Recording by N2IC

[N2TK, Tony]

So if using twice the spectrum, which I agree, why are SO2R and SO1R in the
same category? One could be running on two bands while the other can only
run one band at a time.
N2TK, Tony  

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Durham
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:30 PM
To: Barry <w2up at comcast.net>
Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] PJ4G ARRL DX SSB Recording by N2IC

That's not using two frequencies?? A good SO2R is cqing on one freq and
either dueling CQs on a second freq or working multi. If time right
transmits and receives make this a finely choreographed dance. Absolutely
SO2R is using twice the spectrum that a SO1R is using. 

Marty
W1MD

> On Mar 13, 2017, at 9:21 PM, Barry <w2up at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> SO2R ops aren't using two freqs.  They are CQing on one and answering
stations on another freq already in use by someone else.
> 
> Barry W2UP
> 
>> On 3/13/2017 14:59, Martin Durham wrote:
>> Not the issue. SO2R wouldn't be on a second frequency if it were not
producing contacts.
>> 
>> SO2R operators have twice the spectrum use of SO1R.
>> 
>> THAT is the advantage. Why do multi ops exists?  To sit on a frequency
calling CQ into dead air??
>> 
>> I've been doing multi operator contests for over 30 years.
>> 
>> Marty
>> W1MD
>> 
>> On Mar 13, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Ria Jairam
<rjairam at gmail.com<mailto:rjairam at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Not necessarily since propagation varies widely within that space.
>> 
>> Ria
>> N2RJ
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:46 PM Martin Durham
<W1md at w1md.net<mailto:W1md at w1md.net>> wrote:
>> Hmmmmmm
>> 
>> What if you look at the spectrum as 1.8 - 30mhz. One station cq'ing 
>> on two frequencies is using twice the spectrum.  Regardless of the 
>> 'band' you are on. Riiiight??  :)
>> 
>> SO2R operators effectively get to use twice the spectrum that SO1R
operators use...right?
>> 
>> Marty
>> W1MD
>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Ria Jairam
<rjairam at gmail.com<mailto:rjairam at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some bands are more limited in space than others.
>>> 40m - 75kHz
>>> 20m - 200kHz
>>> 15m -  250kHz
>>> 10m - 1.4MHz
>>> 
>>> Some bands are more productive than others, depending on propagation.
>>> 
>>> So with two CQs by one station on the same band the station engaging 
>>> in this practice takes up twice the space and denies others the use 
>>> of the productive or limited space band.
>>> 
>>> CQing on two bands is different because the other band may not be as 
>>> productive, and even underused in low solar years.
>>> 
>>> Ria
>>> N2RJ
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM john at kk9a.com<mailto:john at kk9a.com>
<john at kk9a.com<mailto:john at kk9a.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As far as spectrum usage goes what is the difference between this 
>>>> and a single op CQing on two bands?
>>>> 
>>>> KK9A
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> To:     cq-contest at contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Subject:        Re: [CQ-Contest] PJ4G ARRL DX SSB Recording by N2IC
>>>> From:   W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com<mailto:w0mu at w0mu.com>>
>>>> Date:   Mon, 13 Mar 2017 08:32:05 -0600
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the comments. I agree with your interpretation of the 
>>>> rules, I don't like that it is allowed and like many have asked the 
>>>> ARRL to close this loophole.
>>>> 
>>>> Many believe that if everyone adopted this philosophy that the band 
>>>> would be a mess. People would have a very difficult time finding a 
>>>> place to CQ unless you were a big gun etc.
>>>> 
>>>> 73 and thanks for all the contacts from everywhere!
>>>> 
>>>> W0MU
>>>> 
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