[CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for

Thu Nov 9 08:42:05 EST 2017

It seems the biggest complaint about SS is the Sunday Blahs.

I am curious, lets all put our logs where our mouths are.
I really did not get on this year till Sunday, so I really do not have a 
Horse in this race. But I think it would be interesting to see visually 
the various rates from all stations.

BIG GUN Stations, Medium stations, and the small. Like Me. 100 Watts and 
a vertical. If you use N1MM+ You can easily make a rate chart. I'll show 
ya mine if you show me yours! :-)

Heres Mine.
http://i63.tinypic.com/2ch9ibm.jpg

Lets see what the Sunday Blahs really look like.

Joe W9ET/WB9SBD
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On 11/8/2017 10:16 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
> It all seems like the post-SS blues i’ve Seen on this reflector since the
> inception of the reflector.  SS is the oldest contest in ham radio, and
> bellyaching about it, I believe, will do no good.  As Ward says, pick a
> rare section and go there.  I’ve figured out how to do that without really
> traveling, though it has its unique challenges.   Figuring out how to make
> SS fun is just another challenge.   The club challenges are one good idea.
> We could change the rules every year and there would always be complaints.
> Maybe activity was down this year, but CW SS is still a pretty darn popular
> contest, and has certainly passed the test of time.  Like an old Canadian
> TV commercial says “Those who like it, like it a lot.”
>
> My frustration Sunday was I went to S&P after running finally became
> counter productive, and while I was tuning for stations, the PR and VI
> stations were doing the same as me..... oh well, that’s what makes SS
> strategy interesting.
>
> As a thrill-seeking run op, I love the quality of CW ops in SS.  I can run
> as fast as I want and pretty much everybody runs as a smooth machine.
>
> IMHO, no reason to mess with this classic.  It is a beauty.
>
> Onward and forward to SS SSB (a different distraction) and CQWW CW.
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry, VE1RM/W1VE
> Representing NT from VY1AAA at VY1JA
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:32 PM Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> It sounds like the trade is a feeling of "even playing field" vs painfully
>> slow conditions for the stronger stations.  2 an hour for the big guns
>> while the smaller stations do 30 an hour and catch up.  The ones catching
>> up don't want it to change and the ones enduring 2 an hour are saying "this
>> is getting to be too slow to endure".
>>
>> Sounds to me like the solution is for the smaller pistols to get more of
>> their friends to join in on SS.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Ed  N1UR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chet Moore [mailto:Chetmoore at cox.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:29 PM
>> To: sawyered at earthlink.net; 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
>> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
>>
>> I dont know about the new hams in the last 7 years but my love for SS goes
>> back to it being the only contest I could even compete in having only a
>> vertical, wires and low power for my first 5 years in ham radio and living
>> in an apartment.  my interest was not scientific, it was simply the best I
>> could do at the time. I was outconus for most of that time, a conditional
>> licensee, and usually the only ham at the locations where I happened to be.
>> while i am a life member now, I was not a qst subscriber then. My first SS
>> operation came from trying to have a rag chew with a ss participant who
>> asked me if I was in the  ss contest. I didn't know what a contest was.  He
>> explained the exchange,(all done on cw) told me what my exchange should be
>> and except for some time in iraq and bahrain, I have never missed an ss
>> since. I'm not advocating for any changes but if they are made "CHAMPIONS
>> ADJUST !!"
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Chet  WA4KJR, WA4KJR/VO1,N6ZO, KL7AIZ, KG4ZO VQ9XX, ZD8W, KP4EAJ N6ZO/6y5
>> N6ZO/HH9
>>
>>
>> Chet N4FX
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Ed Sawyer
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 9:53 AM
>> To: 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
>>
>> Hello Art.  No offense intended.  I believe that people getting involved
>> in SS in the past 10 years and considering it their favorite contest are a
>> rarity indeed.  The submitted log numbers and complaints of dwindling
>> Sunday activity by the regulars would not be what they are if there were
>> noticeably more people like yourself.
>>
>> I am glad you enjoy SS.  I have no beef with it.  I am also not
>> complaining about it.  Just offering a possible explanation to the
>> complainers and suggesting that their complaint cannot be substantiated
>> across other HF contest activity data or experiences.
>>
>> Ed  N1UR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Art Peters [mailto:k0acp at k0acp.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:58 AM
>> To: sawyered at earthlink.net; CQ-Contest
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
>>
>> Ed,
>>
>> I have to take exception to your comment, I may be able to see old-Timer
>> from where I am, but have only been contesting with any sort of intensity
>> for the last 7-years.  SS is one of, if not my favorite contest, partly due
>> to my station configuration, and partially it is the intricacy of attaining
>> all 83 sections, which while a lot of work, it is doable.  So I’d have to
>> respectfully submit that the great thing about (Ham Radio / America) is
>> that everyone is entitled to their opinion...
>>
>> 73 es God Bless,
>>
>> Art / K0ACP
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Nov 7, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> SS has been an old timers contest for as long as I have been
>>> contesting -
>>> 20+ years.  Virtually no one coming into contesting in the last 2
>>> 20+ decades is
>>> a gung ho SS competitor.  The SS group is growing old or dieing off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But don't compare that to most other contests.  CQ WW SSB was amazing.
>>> Rate meter spending LONG times above 200 and 300 peaks observed
>>> numerous times during the weekend.  3000 - 4600 Qs logged by the top
>>> 10 US HP and 9000 Qs logged by 8P5A SOAB HP leader.  CQ WW CW has been
>>> no exception in the past to be as much if not more volume of Qs than the
>> SSB contest.
>>>
>>>
>>> SS has a problem - that is not debatable.  But SSB contesting and CW
>>> contesting don't show signs of problems in most other contests.  In
>>> fact - until this last year of greatly diminishing sunspots - have
>>> been on a decade long growth trend globally.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Its easy to fix the boredom of SS.  But its not easy to do it and keep
>>> it the same old SS.  Choices need to be made.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ed  N1UR
>>>
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