[CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for

Thu Nov 9 09:55:33 EST 2017

Hi Joe:

My rates for the last several years are on 3830.  This year's CW rates are at:

http://3830scores.com/showrumor.php?arg=kTaozUgyavqmT

73,

Mark, KD4D

> On November 9, 2017 at 8:42 AM Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> It seems the biggest complaint about SS is the Sunday Blahs.
> 
> I am curious, lets all put our logs where our mouths are.
> I really did not get on this year till Sunday, so I really do not have a 
> Horse in this race. But I think it would be interesting to see visually 
> the various rates from all stations.
> 
> BIG GUN Stations, Medium stations, and the small. Like Me. 100 Watts and 
> a vertical. If you use N1MM+ You can easily make a rate chart. I'll show 
> ya mine if you show me yours! :-)
> 
> Heres Mine.
> http://i63.tinypic.com/2ch9ibm.jpg
> 
> Lets see what the Sunday Blahs really look like.
> 
> Joe W9ET/WB9SBD
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> On 11/8/2017 10:16 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
> > It all seems like the post-SS blues i’ve Seen on this reflector since the
> > inception of the reflector.  SS is the oldest contest in ham radio, and
> > bellyaching about it, I believe, will do no good.  As Ward says, pick a
> > rare section and go there.  I’ve figured out how to do that without really
> > traveling, though it has its unique challenges.   Figuring out how to make
> > SS fun is just another challenge.   The club challenges are one good idea.
> > We could change the rules every year and there would always be complaints.
> > Maybe activity was down this year, but CW SS is still a pretty darn popular
> > contest, and has certainly passed the test of time.  Like an old Canadian
> > TV commercial says “Those who like it, like it a lot.”
> >
> > My frustration Sunday was I went to S&P after running finally became
> > counter productive, and while I was tuning for stations, the PR and VI
> > stations were doing the same as me..... oh well, that’s what makes SS
> > strategy interesting.
> >
> > As a thrill-seeking run op, I love the quality of CW ops in SS.  I can run
> > as fast as I want and pretty much everybody runs as a smooth machine.
> >
> > IMHO, no reason to mess with this classic.  It is a beauty.
> >
> > Onward and forward to SS SSB (a different distraction) and CQWW CW.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Gerry, VE1RM/W1VE
> > Representing NT from VY1AAA at VY1JA
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:32 PM Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> It sounds like the trade is a feeling of "even playing field" vs painfully
> >> slow conditions for the stronger stations.  2 an hour for the big guns
> >> while the smaller stations do 30 an hour and catch up.  The ones catching
> >> up don't want it to change and the ones enduring 2 an hour are saying "this
> >> is getting to be too slow to endure".
> >>
> >> Sounds to me like the solution is for the smaller pistols to get more of
> >> their friends to join in on SS.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Ed  N1UR
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Chet Moore [mailto:Chetmoore at cox.net]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:29 PM
> >> To: sawyered at earthlink.net; 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
> >> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
> >>
> >> I dont know about the new hams in the last 7 years but my love for SS goes
> >> back to it being the only contest I could even compete in having only a
> >> vertical, wires and low power for my first 5 years in ham radio and living
> >> in an apartment.  my interest was not scientific, it was simply the best I
> >> could do at the time. I was outconus for most of that time, a conditional
> >> licensee, and usually the only ham at the locations where I happened to be.
> >> while i am a life member now, I was not a qst subscriber then. My first SS
> >> operation came from trying to have a rag chew with a ss participant who
> >> asked me if I was in the  ss contest. I didn't know what a contest was.  He
> >> explained the exchange,(all done on cw) told me what my exchange should be
> >> and except for some time in iraq and bahrain, I have never missed an ss
> >> since. I'm not advocating for any changes but if they are made "CHAMPIONS
> >> ADJUST !!"
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Chet  WA4KJR, WA4KJR/VO1,N6ZO, KL7AIZ, KG4ZO VQ9XX, ZD8W, KP4EAJ N6ZO/6y5
> >> N6ZO/HH9
> >>
> >>
> >> Chet N4FX
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Ed Sawyer
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 9:53 AM
> >> To: 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
> >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
> >>
> >> Hello Art.  No offense intended.  I believe that people getting involved
> >> in SS in the past 10 years and considering it their favorite contest are a
> >> rarity indeed.  The submitted log numbers and complaints of dwindling
> >> Sunday activity by the regulars would not be what they are if there were
> >> noticeably more people like yourself.
> >>
> >> I am glad you enjoy SS.  I have no beef with it.  I am also not
> >> complaining about it.  Just offering a possible explanation to the
> >> complainers and suggesting that their complaint cannot be substantiated
> >> across other HF contest activity data or experiences.
> >>
> >> Ed  N1UR
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Art Peters [mailto:k0acp at k0acp.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:58 AM
> >> To: sawyered at earthlink.net; CQ-Contest
> >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
> >>
> >> Ed,
> >>
> >> I have to take exception to your comment, I may be able to see old-Timer
> >> from where I am, but have only been contesting with any sort of intensity
> >> for the last 7-years.  SS is one of, if not my favorite contest, partly due
> >> to my station configuration, and partially it is the intricacy of attaining
> >> all 83 sections, which while a lot of work, it is doable.  So I’d have to
> >> respectfully submit that the great thing about (Ham Radio / America) is
> >> that everyone is entitled to their opinion...
> >>
> >> 73 es God Bless,
> >>
> >> Art / K0ACP
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On Nov 7, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> SS has been an old timers contest for as long as I have been
> >>> contesting -
> >>> 20+ years.  Virtually no one coming into contesting in the last 2
> >>> 20+ decades is
> >>> a gung ho SS competitor.  The SS group is growing old or dieing off.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> But don't compare that to most other contests.  CQ WW SSB was amazing.
> >>> Rate meter spending LONG times above 200 and 300 peaks observed
> >>> numerous times during the weekend.  3000 - 4600 Qs logged by the top
> >>> 10 US HP and 9000 Qs logged by 8P5A SOAB HP leader.  CQ WW CW has been
> >>> no exception in the past to be as much if not more volume of Qs than the
> >> SSB contest.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> SS has a problem - that is not debatable.  But SSB contesting and CW
> >>> contesting don't show signs of problems in most other contests.  In
> >>> fact - until this last year of greatly diminishing sunspots - have
> >>> been on a decade long growth trend globally.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Its easy to fix the boredom of SS.  But its not easy to do it and keep
> >>> it the same old SS.  Choices need to be made.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ed  N1UR
> >>>
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