[CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for

Matt NQ6N matt at nq6n.com
Thu Nov 9 12:22:36 EST 2017 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pb3u01sqix1x52a/2017_sscw_rates.JPG?dl=0

73,
Matt NQ6N

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:55 AM, MARK BAILEY <kd4d at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Joe:
>
> My rates for the last several years are on 3830.  This year's CW rates are
> at:
>
> http://3830scores.com/showrumor.php?arg=kTaozUgyavqmT
>
> 73,
>
> Mark, KD4D
>
> > On November 9, 2017 at 8:42 AM Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It seems the biggest complaint about SS is the Sunday Blahs.
> >
> > I am curious, lets all put our logs where our mouths are.
> > I really did not get on this year till Sunday, so I really do not have a
> > Horse in this race. But I think it would be interesting to see visually
> > the various rates from all stations.
> >
> > BIG GUN Stations, Medium stations, and the small. Like Me. 100 Watts and
> > a vertical. If you use N1MM+ You can easily make a rate chart. I'll show
> > ya mine if you show me yours! :-)
> >
> > Heres Mine.
> > http://i63.tinypic.com/2ch9ibm.jpg
> >
> > Lets see what the Sunday Blahs really look like.
> >
> > Joe W9ET/WB9SBD
> > Sig
> > The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> > Idle Tyme
> > Idle-Tyme.com
> > http://www.idle-tyme.com
> > On 11/8/2017 10:16 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
> > > It all seems like the post-SS blues i’ve Seen on this reflector since
> the
> > > inception of the reflector.  SS is the oldest contest in ham radio, and
> > > bellyaching about it, I believe, will do no good.  As Ward says, pick a
> > > rare section and go there.  I’ve figured out how to do that without
> really
> > > traveling, though it has its unique challenges.   Figuring out how to
> make
> > > SS fun is just another challenge.   The club challenges are one good
> idea.
> > > We could change the rules every year and there would always be
> complaints.
> > > Maybe activity was down this year, but CW SS is still a pretty darn
> popular
> > > contest, and has certainly passed the test of time.  Like an old
> Canadian
> > > TV commercial says “Those who like it, like it a lot.”
> > >
> > > My frustration Sunday was I went to S&P after running finally became
> > > counter productive, and while I was tuning for stations, the PR and VI
> > > stations were doing the same as me..... oh well, that’s what makes SS
> > > strategy interesting.
> > >
> > > As a thrill-seeking run op, I love the quality of CW ops in SS.  I can
> run
> > > as fast as I want and pretty much everybody runs as a smooth machine.
> > >
> > > IMHO, no reason to mess with this classic.  It is a beauty.
> > >
> > > Onward and forward to SS SSB (a different distraction) and CQWW CW.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Gerry, VE1RM/W1VE
> > > Representing NT from VY1AAA at VY1JA
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:32 PM Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> It sounds like the trade is a feeling of "even playing field" vs
> painfully
> > >> slow conditions for the stronger stations.  2 an hour for the big guns
> > >> while the smaller stations do 30 an hour and catch up.  The ones
> catching
> > >> up don't want it to change and the ones enduring 2 an hour are saying
> "this
> > >> is getting to be too slow to endure".
> > >>
> > >> Sounds to me like the solution is for the smaller pistols to get more
> of
> > >> their friends to join in on SS.
> > >>
> > >> 73
> > >>
> > >> Ed  N1UR
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Chet Moore [mailto:Chetmoore at cox.net]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:29 PM
> > >> To: sawyered at earthlink.net; 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
> > >> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
> > >>
> > >> I dont know about the new hams in the last 7 years but my love for SS
> goes
> > >> back to it being the only contest I could even compete in having only
> a
> > >> vertical, wires and low power for my first 5 years in ham radio and
> living
> > >> in an apartment.  my interest was not scientific, it was simply the
> best I
> > >> could do at the time. I was outconus for most of that time, a
> conditional
> > >> licensee, and usually the only ham at the locations where I happened
> to be.
> > >> while i am a life member now, I was not a qst subscriber then. My
> first SS
> > >> operation came from trying to have a rag chew with a ss participant
> who
> > >> asked me if I was in the  ss contest. I didn't know what a contest
> was.  He
> > >> explained the exchange,(all done on cw) told me what my exchange
> should be
> > >> and except for some time in iraq and bahrain, I have never missed an
> ss
> > >> since. I'm not advocating for any changes but if they are made
> "CHAMPIONS
> > >> ADJUST !!"
> > >>
> > >> 73
> > >>
> > >> Chet  WA4KJR, WA4KJR/VO1,N6ZO, KL7AIZ, KG4ZO VQ9XX, ZD8W, KP4EAJ
> N6ZO/6y5
> > >> N6ZO/HH9
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Chet N4FX
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > >> Ed Sawyer
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 9:53 AM
> > >> To: 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
> > >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
> > >>
> > >> Hello Art.  No offense intended.  I believe that people getting
> involved
> > >> in SS in the past 10 years and considering it their favorite contest
> are a
> > >> rarity indeed.  The submitted log numbers and complaints of dwindling
> > >> Sunday activity by the regulars would not be what they are if there
> were
> > >> noticeably more people like yourself.
> > >>
> > >> I am glad you enjoy SS.  I have no beef with it.  I am also not
> > >> complaining about it.  Just offering a possible explanation to the
> > >> complainers and suggesting that their complaint cannot be
> substantiated
> > >> across other HF contest activity data or experiences.
> > >>
> > >> Ed  N1UR
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Art Peters [mailto:k0acp at k0acp.com]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:58 AM
> > >> To: sawyered at earthlink.net; CQ-Contest
> > >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
> > >>
> > >> Ed,
> > >>
> > >> I have to take exception to your comment, I may be able to see
> old-Timer
> > >> from where I am, but have only been contesting with any sort of
> intensity
> > >> for the last 7-years.  SS is one of, if not my favorite contest,
> partly due
> > >> to my station configuration, and partially it is the intricacy of
> attaining
> > >> all 83 sections, which while a lot of work, it is doable.  So I’d
> have to
> > >> respectfully submit that the great thing about (Ham Radio / America)
> is
> > >> that everyone is entitled to their opinion...
> > >>
> > >> 73 es God Bless,
> > >>
> > >> Art / K0ACP
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPad
> > >>
> > >>> On Nov 7, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> SS has been an old timers contest for as long as I have been
> > >>> contesting -
> > >>> 20+ years.  Virtually no one coming into contesting in the last 2
> > >>> 20+ decades is
> > >>> a gung ho SS competitor.  The SS group is growing old or dieing off.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> But don't compare that to most other contests.  CQ WW SSB was
> amazing.
> > >>> Rate meter spending LONG times above 200 and 300 peaks observed
> > >>> numerous times during the weekend.  3000 - 4600 Qs logged by the top
> > >>> 10 US HP and 9000 Qs logged by 8P5A SOAB HP leader.  CQ WW CW has
> been
> > >>> no exception in the past to be as much if not more volume of Qs than
> the
> > >> SSB contest.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> SS has a problem - that is not debatable.  But SSB contesting and CW
> > >>> contesting don't show signs of problems in most other contests.  In
> > >>> fact - until this last year of greatly diminishing sunspots - have
> > >>> been on a decade long growth trend globally.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Its easy to fix the boredom of SS.  But its not easy to do it and
> keep
> > >>> it the same old SS.  Choices need to be made.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 73
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Ed  N1UR
> > >>>
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