[CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for

Joe nss at mwt.net
Thu Nov 9 12:40:12 EST 2017 

Hi Mark,

Yeah a Table. It does show the rates, but not really as easily visually 
as a actual Graph.

Joe W9ET/WB9SBD
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On 11/9/2017 8:55 AM, MARK BAILEY wrote:
> Hi Joe:
>
> My rates for the last several years are on 3830.  This year's CW rates are at:
>
> http://3830scores.com/showrumor.php?arg=kTaozUgyavqmT
>
> 73,
>
> Mark, KD4D
>
>> On November 9, 2017 at 8:42 AM Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It seems the biggest complaint about SS is the Sunday Blahs.
>>
>> I am curious, lets all put our logs where our mouths are.
>> I really did not get on this year till Sunday, so I really do not have a
>> Horse in this race. But I think it would be interesting to see visually
>> the various rates from all stations.
>>
>> BIG GUN Stations, Medium stations, and the small. Like Me. 100 Watts and
>> a vertical. If you use N1MM+ You can easily make a rate chart. I'll show
>> ya mine if you show me yours! :-)
>>
>> Heres Mine.
>> http://i63.tinypic.com/2ch9ibm.jpg
>>
>> Lets see what the Sunday Blahs really look like.
>>
>> Joe W9ET/WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
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>> On 11/8/2017 10:16 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
>>> It all seems like the post-SS blues i’ve Seen on this reflector since the
>>> inception of the reflector.  SS is the oldest contest in ham radio, and
>>> bellyaching about it, I believe, will do no good.  As Ward says, pick a
>>> rare section and go there.  I’ve figured out how to do that without really
>>> traveling, though it has its unique challenges.   Figuring out how to make
>>> SS fun is just another challenge.   The club challenges are one good idea.
>>> We could change the rules every year and there would always be complaints.
>>> Maybe activity was down this year, but CW SS is still a pretty darn popular
>>> contest, and has certainly passed the test of time.  Like an old Canadian
>>> TV commercial says “Those who like it, like it a lot.”
>>>
>>> My frustration Sunday was I went to S&P after running finally became
>>> counter productive, and while I was tuning for stations, the PR and VI
>>> stations were doing the same as me..... oh well, that’s what makes SS
>>> strategy interesting.
>>>
>>> As a thrill-seeking run op, I love the quality of CW ops in SS.  I can run
>>> as fast as I want and pretty much everybody runs as a smooth machine.
>>>
>>> IMHO, no reason to mess with this classic.  It is a beauty.
>>>
>>> Onward and forward to SS SSB (a different distraction) and CQWW CW.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Gerry, VE1RM/W1VE
>>> Representing NT from VY1AAA at VY1JA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:32 PM Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It sounds like the trade is a feeling of "even playing field" vs painfully
>>>> slow conditions for the stronger stations.  2 an hour for the big guns
>>>> while the smaller stations do 30 an hour and catch up.  The ones catching
>>>> up don't want it to change and the ones enduring 2 an hour are saying "this
>>>> is getting to be too slow to endure".
>>>>
>>>> Sounds to me like the solution is for the smaller pistols to get more of
>>>> their friends to join in on SS.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Ed  N1UR
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Chet Moore [mailto:Chetmoore at cox.net]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:29 PM
>>>> To: sawyered at earthlink.net; 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
>>>> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
>>>>
>>>> I dont know about the new hams in the last 7 years but my love for SS goes
>>>> back to it being the only contest I could even compete in having only a
>>>> vertical, wires and low power for my first 5 years in ham radio and living
>>>> in an apartment.  my interest was not scientific, it was simply the best I
>>>> could do at the time. I was outconus for most of that time, a conditional
>>>> licensee, and usually the only ham at the locations where I happened to be.
>>>> while i am a life member now, I was not a qst subscriber then. My first SS
>>>> operation came from trying to have a rag chew with a ss participant who
>>>> asked me if I was in the  ss contest. I didn't know what a contest was.  He
>>>> explained the exchange,(all done on cw) told me what my exchange should be
>>>> and except for some time in iraq and bahrain, I have never missed an ss
>>>> since. I'm not advocating for any changes but if they are made "CHAMPIONS
>>>> ADJUST !!"
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Chet  WA4KJR, WA4KJR/VO1,N6ZO, KL7AIZ, KG4ZO VQ9XX, ZD8W, KP4EAJ N6ZO/6y5
>>>> N6ZO/HH9
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chet N4FX
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Ed Sawyer
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 9:53 AM
>>>> To: 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
>>>>
>>>> Hello Art.  No offense intended.  I believe that people getting involved
>>>> in SS in the past 10 years and considering it their favorite contest are a
>>>> rarity indeed.  The submitted log numbers and complaints of dwindling
>>>> Sunday activity by the regulars would not be what they are if there were
>>>> noticeably more people like yourself.
>>>>
>>>> I am glad you enjoy SS.  I have no beef with it.  I am also not
>>>> complaining about it.  Just offering a possible explanation to the
>>>> complainers and suggesting that their complaint cannot be substantiated
>>>> across other HF contest activity data or experiences.
>>>>
>>>> Ed  N1UR
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Art Peters [mailto:k0acp at k0acp.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:58 AM
>>>> To: sawyered at earthlink.net; CQ-Contest
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
>>>>
>>>> Ed,
>>>>
>>>> I have to take exception to your comment, I may be able to see old-Timer
>>>> from where I am, but have only been contesting with any sort of intensity
>>>> for the last 7-years.  SS is one of, if not my favorite contest, partly due
>>>> to my station configuration, and partially it is the intricacy of attaining
>>>> all 83 sections, which while a lot of work, it is doable.  So I’d have to
>>>> respectfully submit that the great thing about (Ham Radio / America) is
>>>> that everyone is entitled to their opinion...
>>>>
>>>> 73 es God Bless,
>>>>
>>>> Art / K0ACP
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 7, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> SS has been an old timers contest for as long as I have been
>>>>> contesting -
>>>>> 20+ years.  Virtually no one coming into contesting in the last 2
>>>>> 20+ decades is
>>>>> a gung ho SS competitor.  The SS group is growing old or dieing off.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But don't compare that to most other contests.  CQ WW SSB was amazing.
>>>>> Rate meter spending LONG times above 200 and 300 peaks observed
>>>>> numerous times during the weekend.  3000 - 4600 Qs logged by the top
>>>>> 10 US HP and 9000 Qs logged by 8P5A SOAB HP leader.  CQ WW CW has been
>>>>> no exception in the past to be as much if not more volume of Qs than the
>>>> SSB contest.
>>>>>
>>>>> SS has a problem - that is not debatable.  But SSB contesting and CW
>>>>> contesting don't show signs of problems in most other contests.  In
>>>>> fact - until this last year of greatly diminishing sunspots - have
>>>>> been on a decade long growth trend globally.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Its easy to fix the boredom of SS.  But its not easy to do it and keep
>>>>> it the same old SS.  Choices need to be made.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed  N1UR
>>>>>
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