[CQ-Contest] Check In SS

Thu Nov 9 11:00:49 EST 2017

In terms of the check, yes, it can be hard at times to remember what year
it was or to know which operators year to use, but does it bother anyone
else when some people on this reflector mention that they are going to
purposely violate this rule for one agenda or another?  If it is stated in
the rules what the check is supposed to be, stations should follow it to
the best of their memory (of year first licensed).  Yes, the ARRL might not
enforce it, but still, it is in the rules.  I guess I could send whatever
PREC I want also since it has no bearing on others scores.  I am sure one
of the letters of A, B, U, M, Q and S are the easiest to copy, so I could
just pick that one and send it.

Along a related lines, I have seen the rules for some state QSO parties
where they mention you can use all HF bands except the WARC bands.  That
allows me to run their contest on 60 meter!  60 meters is not a WARC band.
I didn't do it, but their rules allowed for it

73 John AF5CC

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:05 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:

> Not to mention the cases of multi ops, people that can't remember exactly
> etc.
>
> People using whatever they want for a check has zero impact on the contest.
>
> As the competitor copy what is sent and log it and work the next guy.
>
> The rules do not specify that all competitors should start with QSO #1.
> Starting with another number to attempt to dissuade competition probably
> breaks some other type of sportsmanship rule.  I have heard of people doing
> this.  I have no proof that it was ever done.  Do your best and let the
> chips fall where they may.  Even if someone had 100 more contacts than you
> did, you have no clue how much time they have in or if they even intend to
> finish the contest, heck who knows, maybe the amp dies or the power goes
> out for that station.
>
> I would hope that everyone would start with Qso #1.
>
> W0MU
>
>
> On 11/9/2017 6:41 AM, Zack Widup wrote:
>
>> How would you know, anyway? You could look back through my records and
>> maybe find that I've had the W9SZ call since 1977. But you wouldn't be
>> able to easily find the call I had before that. Or when I was first
>> licensed. Would you want to spend the time to do this to everyone you
>> worked to find out if someone was breaking a rule by giving a
>> different year? I have better things to do with my time.
>>
>> And the check number does not affect my score or anyone else's - that
>> is, if I gave a wrong section, it would possibly affect someone's
>> score if they only worked me in the section I was reporting. The check
>> is just a number to copy.
>>
>> I suppose this has been asked, too, but do you have to start with the
>> number 1 on the contest? I know it says consecutive serial numbers,
>> but what if you started with 200 or 500?
>>
>> 73, Zack W9SZ
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt at mymts.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike’s right. FFS, the League, which is the FINAL arbiter of all things
>>> ruleswise, has said it doesn’t matter, as long as people copy what you
>>> send..
>>>
>>> Ergo, it DOESN’T MATTER. Copy what is sent, move on to the next Q. Save
>>> your mental energy for things that really matter.
>>>
>>> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:15 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This discussion has been going on now for what as long at the
>>>> CQ-Contest reflector has been around and yet most people still send their
>>>> check right.
>>>>
>>>> Just copy what is sent and move on.  The data sent and received has no
>>>> meaning.  It is an arbitrary part of the exchange.  Why not make it your
>>>> grid square.  Then it can't change and would go along well with the new
>>>> ARRL operating event for next year...............Grid squares worked!
>>>>
>>>> W0MU
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/8/2017 5:17 PM, Mike/W5JR wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like everyone is going to be sending "55" next year.
>>>>>
>>>>> tnx
>>>>> Mike / W5JR
>>>>> Alpharetta GA
>>>>>
>>>>> sent via my HP95LX
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 2:37 PM, John Geiger <af5cc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the point of the ARRL stating in the rules that the check is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> year first licensed, if they really don't care what you send?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 John AF5CC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:51 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think most people try to use their actual year licensed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would be a good question to ask on the entry form.   What year
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> you licensed.  It think we all know that new hams are hard to come
>>>>>>> by and
>>>>>>> many are not interested in contesting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> W0MU
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/7/2017 1:54 PM, ShelbyK4WW wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why are so many putting so much emphasis on the CK, as anything
>>>>>>>> more than
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> "randomly chosen two digit number that is consistently used
>>>>>>>> throughout the
>>>>>>>> contest", having absolutely no relation to anything? ARRL has
>>>>>>>> indicated it
>>>>>>>> will not enforce the CK as being "The last 2 digits of the year of
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> license for either the operator or the station", and many have
>>>>>>>> indicated
>>>>>>>> that they change their CK, from year to year? It certainly has
>>>>>>>> little, if
>>>>>>>> any, bearing on when they were licensed?
>>>>>>>> As far as CW speed is concerned, when I call another station, I feel
>>>>>>>> obligated to try and match their speed. Sometimes this requires me
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> listen to several contacts, before calling. I expect, and usually
>>>>>>>> receive,
>>>>>>>> the same consideration, when I'm called? I fail to see any logic to
>>>>>>>> calling
>>>>>>>> at a much higher speed, then having to endure several repeats?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In it to win it? Not a chance
>>>>>>>> In it to have fun? Most definitely
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73, Shelby - K4WW
>>>>>>>> As I don't have an iPad nor iPhone, sent from my PC
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