[CQ-Contest] The CQWW 160 "protect my turf" rule?

[Andy Blank]

Hi Gerry

Regarding the rule for remote operation found here:
http://cq160.com/rules.htm

The statement  worded:

*Remote operation for categories other than Single Operator Unassisted is
permitted under the following conditions: *
Is indeed wrong, and should read
*Single operator Assisted.*
A little history;

The original rule was written back in 2010, before the plethora of remote
stations that are now available.
There were a handful of stations that did use remote operation, and the
INTENT of the rule was to allow it.
But we wanted to FORBID the use of any remote receivers away from the TX
site.

The capability of listening on a second receiver at the control site was
indeed possible, using an antenna completely free of interference from the
TX signal.
That was why the language was added to make that against the rules.

Somewhere between 2015 and 2016 the statement about *Remote operation for
categories other than Single Operator Unassisted is permitted under the
following conditions:  *was edited in error. Thanks to Gerry for noticing,
that has been wrong for quite a while. Surprisingly it was not caught until
now.

At that time we added another rule to allow a remote RX within 100KM f*or
ASSISTED class only*. I call this the Stew Perry allowance rule, since it
was added to the Stew Perry contest as a concession to some stations with
high noise QTHs. These stations cannot operate any other way, and we wanted
to allow them a chance to compete. Of course, other remote RX located
outside this radius are illegal and against the spirit of the rules.

In summary, remote operation is allowed for any category. However, the use
of a remote RX within 100KM is allowed ONLY in SINGLE OP ASSISTED.

The CQ160 is a very popular contest worldwide, and we hope everyone will
operate within the spirit of the rules.
Like any contest, not every rule is easily enforced. There are many
stations that push the envelope, especially when Power Levels are involved.
It is our hobby and contest, and we should all respect the rules and
compete fairly... Otherwise we have nothing.

Sorry for any confusion, the SSB rules on the web site will be corrected.

73, Andy N2NT
Director CQ160 Contest










On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Andy Blank <andyn2nt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Guys, I will clarify this tonight.
>
> I have to do some research, but I will comment later.
>
> Appreciate if everyone will stop speculating until then.
> I have to finish my day job work first :)
>
> 73, Andy N2NT
> Director CQ160 Contest
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Gerry Hull <gerry at yccc.org> wrote:
>
>> Whatever, Paul.
>>
>> The rule, as stated, denies a particular class remote operating, while
>> allowing it in all other cases.
>>
>> First of all, if you are SOU, even if remote, there is no external
>> anything.  The radio is the radio is the radio, it is within
>> the correct operating circle.
>>
>> I'm not going to argue this point with you   -- it has been settled many
>> times, and you are never going to change your opinion.
>>
>> The rule is poorly written.  If they are denying remote operators the
>> ability to enter "Single Op Unlimited",
>> then the rule should clearly state that.
>>
>> "Remote Operation is not permitted to enter Single Operator Unassisted
>> operation."
>>
>> Funny, Paul, how you pick and choose.   In SOA, you can use a remote
>> receiver which is connected via the internet, just
>> not more than a certain distance away.  Still internet, though.
>>
>> Hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> Anyway -- Just want a clarification on this particular rule.   Anyone?
>>
>> 73, Gerry
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Paul O'Kane <pokane at ei5di.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 29/01/2018 13:27, Gerry Hull wrote:
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> > It would be much simpler to state "Remote operation is not permitted for
>> >> Single operator Unassisted" category.
>> >>
>> >> 1. Am I reading the rule incorrectly?
>> >>
>> >> 2.  If I am reading it correctly, WHY such a rule?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Well, for SOU, the use of external networks is not permitted for
>> > the purpose of increasing scores.  In these circumstances, the
>> > use of external networks to communicate would seem to be entirely
>> > inappropriate.
>> >
>> > For anyone suggesting that remote operators do not communicate
>> > over external networks, consider how many contacts you would have
>> > without them.
>> >
>> > Almost all of us are photographers.  All that matters is the end
>> > result, regardless of the circumstances in which the photos are
>> > obtained.
>> >
>> > Almost all of us are communicators.  If all that matters is the
>> > end result (that we contact one another), then how we communicate
>> > is irrelevant.
>> >
>> > On the other hand, radio amateurs do it with ham-band RF. It's
>> > HOW we communicate with one another that validates our claim
>> > to be radio amateurs.  If you need an external network (the
>> > internet) to have contacts, you're no different to everyone
>> > else who cannot communicate without being on the internet.
>> >
>> > Some radio amateurs and contesters deny this.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Paul EI5DI
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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