[CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying
robert f beaudoin
wa1fcn at charter.net
Sun Jul 8 12:13:49 EDT 2018
GM Ria and Bob
After reading the post from you and Bob KQ2M I see your point.
I did contest over 35 years from Conn. and sure as hell got
beat
a lot from others in NH or Me. I usually thought they had
much better
stations ( true ) but I guess geography did play a part in it.
Good luck to ya in IARU/WRTC will keep an ear
open for you.
73 BoB WA1FCN in Alabama
On 7/8/2018 10:52 AM, rjairam at gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> In the USA I have operated from Florida, Arkansas and Texas and
> remotely from California.
>
> The difference between NJ and Maine, NH or Vermont can be quite
> significant.
>
> Yes up here it is better than the west coast but in contesting to work
> Europe the more North Easterly you are, the better because the band
> stays open longer.
>
> 73
> Ria, N2RJ
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:09 AM robert f beaudoin <wa1fcn at charter.net
> <mailto:wa1fcn at charter.net>> wrote:
>
> GM Ria
>
> Maybe you have never operated from outside the NorthEast
> USA, but I find it
>
> hard to sympathize with your comment about you as a W2 station
> having a geographic
>
> disadvantage against W1 land. Your QTH in N. J. what is
> that
> 100 miles from W1 land ?
>
> I guess all things are relative but I sure wish I had
> your
> disadvantage.
>
> 73 and GM from from Alabama WA1FCN
>
>
> On 7/7/2018 8:49 PM, rjairam at gmail.com <mailto:rjairam at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I’m looking at my case. Under the current criteria I have not a
> shot in
> > hell. Mostly because I’m competing with W1 who has an obvious
> geographic
> > advantage. When it was aligned with US Call districts it was a
> bit easier,
> > but I didn’t really try to qualify then.
> >
> > I guess the dream will have to wait, or I could spend money and
> build a
> > station in the Caribbean and operate, remotely even.
> >
> > I don’t think it will be possible to be completely fair but
> qualification
> > rules should prioritize skill first if this is going to be a
> competition of
> > who is the best operator. There are of course some damned good
> operators in
> > there but I think some who may not have access to a super duper
> station get
> > left out.
> >
> > 73
> > Ria
> > N2RJ
> > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e at ku8e.com
> <mailto:ku8e at ku8e.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> 6. Qualification Score Calculation
> >>
> >> The qualification score is the sum of up to 12 Event Scores.
> The maximum
> >> possible qualification score is 12.000 for DL, 11.900 for the
> rest of
> >> the world.
> >>
> >> 1. A maximum of 4 Event Scores may be from multi-ops (MS/M2/MM).
> >> 2. A maximum of 4 Event Scores can be from outside an
> applicant’s home
> >> Selection Area (i.e., DXpeditions).
> >> 3. A maximum of 2 operators may submit scores for a single
> contest from
> >> a MS, 3 from a M2, and 4 from a MM.
> >> 4. If an operator’s callsign appears with more than one entry
> in a
> >> single qualifying event (e.g., from operating at more than one
> >> station), they may not use any scores from that contest.
> >> 5. In the unlikely case of a tie score for the final
> qualifying spot in
> >> a Selection Area, the applicants will be asked for
> additional scores
> >> beyond those submitted on the application until the tie is
> broken.
> >>
> >> As long as you operate a station in your own qualification area
> as a SO
> >> it counts. That would ether be from home OR as a guest
> operator. That's
> >> how you could qualify without having a station at home.
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/7/2018 05:38 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
> >>> What if you had no home station, let alone a tribander with
> wires, could
> >> you qualify then?
> >>> Tim / N6WIN
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018, 14:16, Igor Sokolov
> <ua9cdc at gmail.com <mailto:ua9cdc at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes, this was the first time one could qualify using low power.
> >>> Notwithstanding you have to have big antenna farm because even
> in Low
> >>> power category there were a lot of competitors. And yes, some
> of those
> >>> who have big stations did bother with doing low power.
> Tribander and
> >>> wires from the city lot is not enough to qualify for WRTC
> regardless of
> >>> power.
> >>>
> >>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 07.07.2018 22:03, Jeff Clarke пишет:
> >>>> It's possible to qualify by doing low power. Your score would be
> >>>> compared to others that are doing low power and not the high
> power
> >>>> scores. If you do that you won't have to compete again the
> "big gun"
> >>>> stations in your region. Plus you aren't getting any reduction in
> >>>> score ( getting the same number of points same as HP SO guys)
> like
> >>>> someone who did Multi-Ops. I really doubt someone who has a big
> >>>> station would want to bother with doing low power.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I'm not mistaken Julio, AD4Z, who is one of the team
> leaders in our
> >>>> region (NA-002) did this and qualified.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff KU8E
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/6/2018 11:11 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
> >>>>> I think what’s most interesting is the guys I know who
> typically win
> >>>>> don’t spend a lot of time complaining... they spend a lot of
> time
> >>>>> working at what makes them winners.
> >>>>> I can also think of some people who won/win that don’t have deep
> >>>>> pockets at all.
> >>>>> Some of the best operators don’t actually have big stations. Not
> >>>>> taking away from the big station owners at all, as some of
> them are
> >>>>> great operators themselves. However, many are willing to let the
> >>>>> latest up and coming great operators take their station
> seats to show
> >>>>> what can be done.
> >>>>> It makes sense to me because it takes a lot of time and
> effort to
> >>>>> either build or work to pay for others to build something
> expensive.
> >>>>> That same time is thus not spent on honing operating skills.
> >>>>> Very similar to how many athletes aren’t rich until after
> (and not
> >>>>> for all) they have worked so very hard to win and are given
> noteriety.
> >>>>> If a guy wants to remote or travel into my area and he beats
> me, so
> >>>>> be it... time for me to get better. Or maybe I don’t want to
> put in
> >>>>> the same operating skills effort that he did and thus I’ll
> just hope
> >>>>> he doesn’t return.
> >>>>> Competition is great... it shows how hard we are willing to
> work, or
> >>>>> not.
> >>>>> Tim / N6WIN.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Friday, July 6, 2018, 14:45, Jim via CQ-Contest
> >>>>> <cq-contest at contesting.com
> <mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have a somewhat different perspective, being an Ohio
> snowbird who
> >>>>> spends half the year in Florida. As a practical matter I
> could not
> >>>>> qualify without a lot of travel or remote operating from W8.
> And I’m
> >>>>> not that stupid to head north from Florida in February :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had my shot at WRTC in 2014 (as N1U with partner K9NW), but I
> >>>>> didn’t compete to qualify for 2018, and don’t see me trying to
> >>>>> qualify for future WRTCs, so don’t take these comments as
> being self
> >>>>> serving.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If a W6 resident wants to operate from W1, let him do so,
> comparing
> >>>>> his scores with other W1 entrants. And conversely, if a guy
> living in
> >>>>> W1 is crazy enough to want to operate CQWW from W6, thinking the
> >>>>> qualifying competition there might be less, why stop him? Again,
> >>>>> compare his W6 score with other W6 scores, and let the WRTC
> >>>>> qualifying points go into his home W1 account.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So long as a person is a legitimate resident of his
> qualifying area,
> >>>>> why stop him from operating from anywhere in the world,
> whether in
> >>>>> person or remotely? I don’t have a problem to allow someone like
> >>>>> LZ4AX to qualify from W3, but I would not let people become
> >>>>> “Africans” solely by virtue of a bunch of operating from
> zone 33.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 73 - Jim K8MR
> >>>>>
> >>>>> p.s. Keep in mind the motto of the Florida Contest Group:
> Sooner or
> >>>>> later, you’ll be one of us!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 4:16 PM, WW3S <ww3s at zoominternet.net
> <mailto:ww3s at zoominternet.net>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A west coast ham, operating a remote station with antennas
> in Maine,
> >>>>>> should be competing as if he/she were physically in Maine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 11:56 PM, David Siddall
> <hhamwv at gmail.com <mailto:hhamwv at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A W6 ham resident in California that operates a station on
> the east
> >>>>>>> coast,
> >>>>>>> whether by physical or remote means, could not qualify to
> be a team
> >>>>>>> leader
> >>>>>>> for the WRTC2018. Rule 7.5 - 7.7, subject to Rule 6.2.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 73, Dave K3ZJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Carol Richards
> <n2mm at comcast.net <mailto:n2mm at comcast.net>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I agree....where you operate _from_ should determine what
> region you
> >>>>>>>> compete in. A W6 in California operating a remote station
> on the
> >>>>>>>> East coast
> >>>>>>>> should not be grouped with other East coast stations to
> qualify
> >>>>>>>> for WRTC.
> >>>>>>>> This remote category is getting out of hand.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Carol
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