[CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying
Jeff Clarke
ku8e at ku8e.com
Sun Jul 8 17:09:00 EDT 2018
Oh C'Mon!! An east coast station complaining about their propagation ?
You got to be kidding right? You really don't realize how well you have
it compared to the rest of the country. Only a handful of stations
outside the East Coast ever make the top ten box in any category of a DX
contest. Come down and operate where I live and you will appreciate what
you have. I could probably put up a bunch of big towers and beams and
K1AR would still beat me with his wires !! :)
Jeff KU8E
On 7/8/2018 11:52 AM, rjairam at gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> In the USA I have operated from Florida, Arkansas and Texas and remotely
> from California.
>
> The difference between NJ and Maine, NH or Vermont can be quite
> significant.
>
> Yes up here it is better than the west coast but in contesting to work
> Europe the more North Easterly you are, the better because the band stays
> open longer.
>
> 73
> Ria, N2RJ
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:09 AM robert f beaudoin <wa1fcn at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> GM Ria
>>
>> Maybe you have never operated from outside the NorthEast
>> USA, but I find it
>>
>> hard to sympathize with your comment about you as a W2 station
>> having a geographic
>>
>> disadvantage against W1 land. Your QTH in N. J. what is that
>> 100 miles from W1 land ?
>>
>> I guess all things are relative but I sure wish I had your
>> disadvantage.
>>
>> 73 and GM from from Alabama WA1FCN
>>
>>
>> On 7/7/2018 8:49 PM, rjairam at gmail.com wrote:
>>> I’m looking at my case. Under the current criteria I have not a shot in
>>> hell. Mostly because I’m competing with W1 who has an obvious geographic
>>> advantage. When it was aligned with US Call districts it was a bit
>> easier,
>>> but I didn’t really try to qualify then.
>>>
>>> I guess the dream will have to wait, or I could spend money and build a
>>> station in the Caribbean and operate, remotely even.
>>>
>>> I don’t think it will be possible to be completely fair but qualification
>>> rules should prioritize skill first if this is going to be a competition
>> of
>>> who is the best operator. There are of course some damned good operators
>> in
>>> there but I think some who may not have access to a super duper station
>> get
>>> left out.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Ria
>>> N2RJ
>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e at ku8e.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 6. Qualification Score Calculation
>>>>
>>>> The qualification score is the sum of up to 12 Event Scores. The maximum
>>>> possible qualification score is 12.000 for DL, 11.900 for the rest of
>>>> the world.
>>>>
>>>> 1. A maximum of 4 Event Scores may be from multi-ops (MS/M2/MM).
>>>> 2. A maximum of 4 Event Scores can be from outside an applicant’s home
>>>> Selection Area (i.e., DXpeditions).
>>>> 3. A maximum of 2 operators may submit scores for a single contest
>> from
>>>> a MS, 3 from a M2, and 4 from a MM.
>>>> 4. If an operator’s callsign appears with more than one entry in a
>>>> single qualifying event (e.g., from operating at more than one
>>>> station), they may not use any scores from that contest.
>>>> 5. In the unlikely case of a tie score for the final qualifying spot
>> in
>>>> a Selection Area, the applicants will be asked for additional
>> scores
>>>> beyond those submitted on the application until the tie is broken.
>>>>
>>>> As long as you operate a station in your own qualification area as a SO
>>>> it counts. That would ether be from home OR as a guest operator. That's
>>>> how you could qualify without having a station at home.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/7/2018 05:38 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
>>>>> What if you had no home station, let alone a tribander with wires,
>> could
>>>> you qualify then?
>>>>> Tim / N6WIN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018, 14:16, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Yes, this was the first time one could qualify using low power.
>>>>> Notwithstanding you have to have big antenna farm because even in Low
>>>>> power category there were a lot of competitors. And yes, some of those
>>>>> who have big stations did bother with doing low power. Tribander and
>>>>> wires from the city lot is not enough to qualify for WRTC regardless of
>>>>> power.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 07.07.2018 22:03, Jeff Clarke пишет:
>>>>>> It's possible to qualify by doing low power. Your score would be
>>>>>> compared to others that are doing low power and not the high power
>>>>>> scores. If you do that you won't have to compete again the "big gun"
>>>>>> stations in your region. Plus you aren't getting any reduction in
>>>>>> score ( getting the same number of points same as HP SO guys) like
>>>>>> someone who did Multi-Ops. I really doubt someone who has a big
>>>>>> station would want to bother with doing low power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I'm not mistaken Julio, AD4Z, who is one of the team leaders in our
>>>>>> region (NA-002) did this and qualified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff KU8E
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:11 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
>>>>>>> I think what’s most interesting is the guys I know who typically win
>>>>>>> don’t spend a lot of time complaining... they spend a lot of time
>>>>>>> working at what makes them winners.
>>>>>>> I can also think of some people who won/win that don’t have deep
>>>>>>> pockets at all.
>>>>>>> Some of the best operators don’t actually have big stations. Not
>>>>>>> taking away from the big station owners at all, as some of them are
>>>>>>> great operators themselves. However, many are willing to let the
>>>>>>> latest up and coming great operators take their station seats to show
>>>>>>> what can be done.
>>>>>>> It makes sense to me because it takes a lot of time and effort to
>>>>>>> either build or work to pay for others to build something expensive.
>>>>>>> That same time is thus not spent on honing operating skills.
>>>>>>> Very similar to how many athletes aren’t rich until after (and not
>>>>>>> for all) they have worked so very hard to win and are given
>> noteriety.
>>>>>>> If a guy wants to remote or travel into my area and he beats me, so
>>>>>>> be it... time for me to get better. Or maybe I don’t want to put in
>>>>>>> the same operating skills effort that he did and thus I’ll just hope
>>>>>>> he doesn’t return.
>>>>>>> Competition is great... it shows how hard we are willing to work, or
>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>> Tim / N6WIN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, July 6, 2018, 14:45, Jim via CQ-Contest
>>>>>>> <cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a somewhat different perspective, being an Ohio snowbird who
>>>>>>> spends half the year in Florida. As a practical matter I could not
>>>>>>> qualify without a lot of travel or remote operating from W8. And I’m
>>>>>>> not that stupid to head north from Florida in February :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had my shot at WRTC in 2014 (as N1U with partner K9NW), but I
>>>>>>> didn’t compete to qualify for 2018, and don’t see me trying to
>>>>>>> qualify for future WRTCs, so don’t take these comments as being self
>>>>>>> serving.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a W6 resident wants to operate from W1, let him do so, comparing
>>>>>>> his scores with other W1 entrants. And conversely, if a guy living in
>>>>>>> W1 is crazy enough to want to operate CQWW from W6, thinking the
>>>>>>> qualifying competition there might be less, why stop him? Again,
>>>>>>> compare his W6 score with other W6 scores, and let the WRTC
>>>>>>> qualifying points go into his home W1 account.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So long as a person is a legitimate resident of his qualifying area,
>>>>>>> why stop him from operating from anywhere in the world, whether in
>>>>>>> person or remotely? I don’t have a problem to allow someone like
>>>>>>> LZ4AX to qualify from W3, but I would not let people become
>>>>>>> “Africans” solely by virtue of a bunch of operating from zone 33.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73 - Jim K8MR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> p.s. Keep in mind the motto of the Florida Contest Group: Sooner or
>>>>>>> later, you’ll be one of us!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 4:16 PM, WW3S <ww3s at zoominternet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A west coast ham, operating a remote station with antennas in Maine,
>>>>>>>> should be competing as if he/she were physically in Maine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 11:56 PM, David Siddall <hhamwv at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> A W6 ham resident in California that operates a station on the east
>>>>>>>>> coast,
>>>>>>>>> whether by physical or remote means, could not qualify to be a team
>>>>>>>>> leader
>>>>>>>>> for the WRTC2018. Rule 7.5 - 7.7, subject to Rule 6.2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 73, Dave K3ZJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Carol Richards <n2mm at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree....where you operate _from_ should determine what region
>> you
>>>>>>>>>> compete in. A W6 in California operating a remote station on the
>>>>>>>>>> East coast
>>>>>>>>>> should not be grouped with other East coast stations to qualify
>>>>>>>>>> for WRTC.
>>>>>>>>>> This remote category is getting out of hand.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carol
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