[CQ-Contest] WRTC looking for a new team leader

[Timothy Coker]

I missed the point of from within the same location and for that I apologize.
However, some ops have their own stations or are part owners/renters in locations outside of their home residence area. I wouldn’t think it right to limit any op from experiencing and also sharing their love of ham radio in other areas. That they should not have qualifying points added isn’t right and it’s addressed already by limiting their number of qualifiers from Multi’s and DXPeditions. Where would such ops qualify from? 
Also, some ham radio operators (some of the best in the world) do not have a home station. Many multi-ops, guest ops, and remote hosts take great pleasure in the hosting of hams like this as they not only help with the score but add to the comaraderie and knowledge contribution to their operations.
Again, rules can always be debated... but it seems like the rules as they are now have allowed some amazing operators to both participate and also not participate. 
The inclusion of a remote operation limitation for qualifying events will be needed, just like the existing limitations, but it surely isn’t a bad thing overall.
73,
Tim / N6WIN.

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On Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 13:53, rjairam at gmail.com <rjairam at gmail.com> wrote:

Steve,

Remote operation for contesting in general is “ok.”

Where it becomes problematic is when you’re vying for placement among your
peers in a geographic region but some of your peers operate from another
place that is far more advantageous.

For general contesting it’s acceptable but I think for geographical WRTC
qualification it needs to be looked at a bit further. If you truly want the
best from a particular region to be the teams that participate in WRTC,
then all qualifying should be done from within that region. Simple as that.

73
Ria, N2RJ

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 4:08 PM Stephen Bloom <sbloom at acsalaska.net> wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> It's not quite that straightforward.  "Remoting" can mean a bunch of
> different things.  There are the "Rent A Stations", (both Remote and In
> Person), some of which are Professional Level revenue centers, some just
> "helps me cover the expense of my addiction."  The in person "Rent A
> Stations" are a great time
> For folks who either don't have home stations, or live in less than ideal
> locations.
>
> There are also situations like mine and they are becoming quite common too.
> I live in an urban area (yes there are some, even in Alaska), with a decent
> station, given that situation, and I now I own a Multi/Multi Contest
> station, about 100KM away as the crow flies.  I don't have remoting setup
> yet, and it is *very* unlikely, that even when I do, that I will do
> anything
> with it commercially, or open it up to anyone other than our in person
> regulars.  My "primary mission" is to continue the legacy of an in person
> multi op station in KL7, in the spirit of the man who built it, who was not
> a fan of remoting.  Having said that, once I have the capacity, no doubt
> I'll occasionally remote in for either dx, or one of the smaller contests,
> and I don't see how it would be any different from
> making the short flight down there.  Likely it will involve VOIP (well
> really CWOIP) :)  If that was an absolute disqualification, I could, with a
> pretty heavy
> duty investment, setup a microwave relay (and guys were doing that Fifty
> years ago).
>
> The battle (I think) you are fighting was over as soon as any type of
> outside "Assistance" was allowed.  Things evolve, and right now they evolve
> rapidly.
> Packet Cluster-Skimmer-RBN-IP Remoting-Something we haven't yet thought of.
> I was cynical about remoting, and I'm still hoping that in person remains
> the default for Multi Ops, because there is a social element to it that
> can't be replicated any other way.  Other than that, contesting and
> emerging
> digital modes are the two healthiest areas of this hobby, and especially in
> the U.S. the Amateur Radio Demographic is aging, and increasingly not in a
> position to set up a fully operational station at home.    We don't have
> the
> luxury of stagnating, even if we want to.  No doubt at some point, "What
> station do I want to use" will became a strategy question, along with "When
> should I take my off time."  It's different, not better, not worse.  Our
> job
> is to embrace that, while still doing our best to make sure that it's fun
> for "A boy and his radio."
>
>
> 73
> Steve KL7SB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Paul O'Kane
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 1:53 AM
> To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC looking for a new team leader
>
> On 12/06/2018 02:37, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > One cannot vilify remote ops winning our area without also vilifying
> guest
> ops / DXPeditions.
> > Tim / N6WIN.
>
> In general, guest ops have made a commitment in terms of time and money to
> operate from their chosen location. In general, remote ops have made no
> such
> commitment, and are dependent on the internet for each and every one of
> their contacts.
>
> Radio amateurs do it (communicate with one another) with RF. Everyone else
> needs the internet.  Or have the rules changed?
>
> 73,
> Paul EI5DI
>
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