[CQ-Contest] CW SS: Some thoughts

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

The CAC works for the Board not the Contest manager.  Most contests have 
been moving up deadlines.    I would certainly opt for quicker deadlines 
in the hope of eliminated the log massaging that we have seen in recent 
years.

Maybe we need a different set of rules for serious competitors and 
causal ops.  I am sure that in some instances exceptions could be made.  
I would be very leery of late submissions from a top scorer unless they 
had a heck of an excuse with proof, etc.

The CAC is simply an advisory committee.   It is tasked with certain 
things from the board, which may come from the contest manger but the 
CAC has zero power and some influence.  It is not the ruling body of 
ARRL Contests.

W0MU


On 3/26/2018 7:50 AM, George Wagner wrote:
> John, I suggest you contact the Contest Manager, Bart, W9JJ to see why 
> the ARRL changed to a 5 day deadline for contest log submissions.  As 
> far as I know, they didn't even consult with the ARRL's CAC on this 
> decision!
>
> With respect to your sending your 10m log to a "previously used 10 
> meter log email address", I recommend you always check the latest 
> version of all contest rules before and after each contest to pick up 
> any changes from previous contests.  This goes for all contests, not 
> just the ARRL ones.
>
> 73, George, K5KG
>
>
>
> On 3/25/2018 3:26 PM, John Geiger wrote:
>> Yes, I was aiming my comments at contest novices, who would probably 
>> like
>> to see their call in the results, but also might not be up to speed 
>> on log
>> submissions and such.
>>
>> I ended up submitting my log for the 10 meter contest a couple of hours
>> after the deadline, but an email to the contest branch at the ARRL took
>> care of it.  I was unaware that they had switched to a web-based
>> submission, so I emailed it to the previously used 10 meter log email
>> address.  I realized after a couple of days that I had never received a
>> reply from the contest robot and that is when I did some checking and
>> learned about having to upload your log.  I had to leave the house right
>> after that but figured I would take care of it when I got home. My 
>> memory
>> isn't so great for things anymore so I forgot.
>>
>> Does anyone know the reason why the ARRL switched to a 5 day deadline 
>> for
>> submission?
>>
>> 73 John AF5CC
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:58 AM, RT Clay <rt_clay at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> AF5CC's comments were regarding casual participants. They get on for an
>>> hour or two, knowing that at any given minute they might have to 
>>> leave. And
>>> importantly, they don't know how much time they will have, and don't 
>>> know
>>> which operating session will be their last.
>>>
>>> It happened to me during ARRL DX CW. I operated some Sunday but had to
>>> leave. I wasn't there at the end of the contest and was busy Sunday 
>>> evening
>>> and every day the next week. I forgot to submit my log. I submitted it
>>> late...ARRL can do whatever they want with it.
>>>
>>> 5 days is fine, less is not good if you want casual participants to 
>>> submit
>>> their logs.
>>>
>>> Tor
>>> N4OGW
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Sat, 3/24/18, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, unless there is a serious issue,
>>>   >you should be able to create a Cabrillo
>>>   >and upload a very small .log file 5-6
>>>   >minutes after contest end.
>>>   >(or even earlier if you decide you're
>>>   >done at some point)
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>