[CQ-Contest] possible changes for CQ VHF Contest

[rjairam at gmail.com]

Terry,

That’s a false assumption. The sample data that RBN collected was from a
few beta testers. It was not widespread. It was from wideband SDRs and the
data came from the same source and likely the same software. So in terms of
rx capability it was equal so to speak.

The details of the test and result from RBN are here:

http://reversebeacon.net/pages/FT8+Announcement+40


Ria
N2RJ

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:05 PM Terry Zivney <n4tz at arrl.net> wrote:

> Another unfair comparison - there are LOTS more PSKreporter monitors
> than RBN monitors (an order of magnitude difference, more on 6 meters!)
> plus the RBN spots from each monitor are at best once per 10 minutes
> while PSK reporter gets near continuous updates.
>
> Terry N4TZ
> On Wednesday, July 24, 2019, 4:23:58 PM EDT, rjairam at gmail.com <
> rjairam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> And as I pointed out, ClubLog is not the only source of data.
>
> RBN tested this. FT8 to CW was roughly 85% to 15%. If phone is another 15
> to 20%, that still puts FT8 way, way ahead.
>
> The point is that the user base is too large to ignore.
>
> Ria
> N2RJ
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:48 PM Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at sbelectronics.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Chris, As I mentioned privately to Ria.  Clublog states to not draw any
> > conclusions about overall activity vs their uploaded logs.  My personal
> > tests have shown that FT8 is very much over-represented by FT8.  I base
> > that on CQing and seeing how many of the responders are CLublog uploaders
> > as well as scanning the band and recording the same.  Surprisingly, only
> > 25% were showing up on Clublog.  I would venture to guess 90% of FT8
> > activity is showing up on clublog (it’s a guess only).
> >
> > Tune around and do your own research.  I did.  And the answers made more
> > sense.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Ed  N1UR
> >
> > From: Chris Plumblee [mailto:chris.plumblee at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 9:59 AM
> > To: Edward Sawyer
> > Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] possible changes for CQ VHF Contest
> >
> > Clublog statistics support (approximately) that ratio of FT8 to CW + SSB
> +
> > RTTY and other digital qsos. I was also surprised.
> >
> > Chris W4WF
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:28 AM Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at sbelectronics.com
> > <mailto:EdwardS at sbelectronics.com>> wrote:
> > "70% of ham traffic is now FT8."
> >
> > I am curious where this datapoint is coming from?
> >
> > Ed  N1UR
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