[CQ-Contest] Serial number, contact sending speed
Stan Stockton
wa5rtg at gmail.com
Tue Mar 12 16:37:30 EDT 2019
Most all other contests. If you call ZF9CW and I log you as WN4AFO, you get credit and I don't. If I log you as Zone 4 with correct call you get credit and I don't. In Russian Contest both operators lose the contact in either of above scenarios.
73... Stan, ZF9CW
> On Mar 12, 2019, at 1:05 PM, Dave Edmonds <dave at pkministrywebs.com> wrote:
>
> I thought you had to have correct information in your log for contacts in
> any contest... So which contests allow us to do half the job?
>
> Dave AFP
>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:36 PM NM5M <nm5meric at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Don’t forget, in the Russian contest, the contest sponsor penalizes
>> stations if the receiving party doesn’t get the information correctly into
>> their log. To simplify, both stations have to copy correct information in
>> order to get full points for the contact.
>>
>> We could learn something from the way the Russians score their contest.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> NM5M
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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>>> 1. Phone Fray - Daylight Savings Time - Tuesday Nights
>>> (dfaklis at frontiernet.net)
>>> 2. Serial # contests, speed? (Mike Smith VE9AA)
>>> 3. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (K9MA)
>>> 4. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Edward Sawyer)
>>> 5. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (rjairam at gmail.com)
>>> 6. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (jimk8mr at aol.com)
>>> 7. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Bob Shohet, KQ2M)
>>> 8. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Ed K1EP)
>>> 9. Serial # contests, speed? (Bill Parry)
>>> 10. Serial # contests, speed? (jpescatore at aol.com)
>>> 11. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Dave Edmonds)
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>>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:16:05 +0000 (UTC)
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>> 30-minute SSB contest.? Please bring a friend and introduce a new contester
>> into the mix.? One QSO or many, please enter your score.
>>>
>>> The Phone Fray is weekly and mirrors NAQP SSB; exchange name and S/P/C,
>> mults per band.
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>>> Suggested center frequencies are:? 21.325, 14.250, 7.175, 3.800, 1.875.?
>> General Ops can be found above 3.800.
>>>
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:44:17 -0300
>>> From: "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>> Message-ID: <002e01d4d86c$b9f0a350$2dd1e9f0$@nbnet.nb.ca>
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>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>> busting
>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>
>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>
>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
>> but
>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>
>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>
>>> . Something else?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>> who
>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>>
>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:02:55 -0600
>>> From: K9MA <k9ma at sdellington.us>
>>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>> Message-ID: <C7FA205D-26C9-4065-818E-C4B7227D2961 at sdellington.us>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> I slow down to the other?s speed, if necessary, and further if
>> conditions are poor. I think slowing down just for the sn is
>> counterproductive.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Scott K9MA
>>>
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> Scott Ellington
>>>
>>> --- via iPad
>>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>> busting
>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>
>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>
>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
>> is), but
>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>
>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>
>>>> . Something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>> who
>>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>>>
>>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:01:42 -0400
>>> From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at sbelectronics.com>
>>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>, "cq-contest at contesting.com"
>>> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
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>>> For WPX and Russia DX or ARRL or CQWW, for me it doesn't matter, serial
>> # or not. If conditions are good and you are working Europe, especially,
>> Russia and Eastern Europe, its fast 36 - 40. If its all US or South
>> America I slow it down to 32 - 34. When conditions are more marginal
>> especially with QSB, I use 28 - 30. Especially over the pole - 26 - 28.
>>>
>>> Ed N1UR
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mike Smith VE9AA
>>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:44 PM
>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>
>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>> busting
>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>
>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>
>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
>> but
>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>
>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>
>>> . Something else?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>> who knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>>
>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:05:47 -0400
>>> From: "rjairam at gmail.com" <rjairam at gmail.com>
>>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAMCyBs6k43PRTDN14_t8r7c9vjAGdWqE1R8iadZ1R1Z7Wk+VOg at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>
>>> Automatically have software go slower to send the exchange.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Ria, N2RJ
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 21:58, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>> busting
>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>
>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>
>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
>> is), but
>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>
>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>
>>>> . Something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>> who
>>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>>>
>>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ria Jairam, N2RJ
>>> Director, Hudson Division
>>> ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
>>> +1.973.594.6275
>>> https://hudson.arrl.org
>>> n2rj at arrl.org
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 02:15:35 +0000 (UTC)
>>> From: jimk8mr at aol.com
>>> To: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca, cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>> Message-ID: <2066153686.3273616.1552356935422 at mail.yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>
>>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
>> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
>> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
>>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
>> I have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
>> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO and
>> knows how to increment a number.
>>>
>>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
>> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
>> the other guy to call you now.
>>>
>>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
>> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted with
>> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the speed a
>> bit.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73? -? Jim? K8MR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>
>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .? ? ? Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>> busting
>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>
>>> .? ? ? Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>
>>> .? ? ? Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
>> but
>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>
>>> .? ? ? Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>
>>> .? ? ? Something else?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>> who
>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 00:18:04 -0400
>>> From: "Bob Shohet, KQ2M" <kq2m at kq2m.com>
>>> To: <jimk8mr at aol.com>, <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>,
>>> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>> Message-ID: <A2E111074D3949F6BBB370BE544F0B44 at BOBWINPC1PC>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>
>>> What is fun is when a super op type calls you and you KNOW that you can
>> speed up and send it to him at 60 wpm and he will get it the first time and
>> vice-versa if I I call him/her. Get?s the blood pumping a little faster
>> and puts a smile on my face (and hopefully theirs). :-) And there are
>> some slow sending ops that can copy qrq easily ? but just can?t send fast ?
>> and your turning up the speed to send to them is like a knowing handshake
>> saluting their copying skill ? ?Hey I know who you are ? you?re a really
>> good op so I am going to send fast to you!?.
>>>
>>> It also gets the attention of the pileup ? makes them listen and wonder
>> what is going on. If they are listening then they are not transmitting
>> which means that when the weak guy calls you will copy him and work him.
>> Sometimes that weak guy is a polar path mult that you would never have
>> heard if/when everyone was calling at once!
>>>
>>> It pays to slow down if cndx are disturbed and the signals start to
>> sound auroral and/or of have significant flutter (like the W1 path to JA) ?
>> if you are sending fast you will be harder to understand and callers may
>> pass you by.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Bob KQ2M
>>>
>>>
>>> From: K8MR via CQ-Contest
>>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:15 PM
>>> To: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca ; cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>
>>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
>> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
>> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
>>>
>>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
>> I have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
>> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO and
>> knows how to increment a number.
>>>
>>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
>> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
>> the other guy to call you now.
>>>
>>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
>> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted with
>> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the speed a
>> bit.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73 - Jim K8MR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>
>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>> busting
>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>
>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>
>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
>> but
>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>
>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>
>>> . Something else?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>> who
>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
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>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:25:58 -0400
>>> From: Ed K1EP <k1ep.list at gmail.com>
>>> To: jimk8mr at aol.com
>>> Cc: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca, cq Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAKR4uUNq7qoQ2XRqRA=UmLPm9WOxg21na9sKUL8m8a8nQQOXDQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>
>>> What I don't get are those who send at warp speed, but pause a second or
>>> two before sending the exchange. Same amount of time if you just
>> eliminated
>>> the pause and sent at non-warp speed.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 23:41 K8MR via CQ-Contest <
>> cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
>>>> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
>>>> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
>>>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
>> I
>>>> have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
>>>> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
>> and
>>>> knows how to increment a number.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
>>>> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
>>>> the other guy to call you now.
>>>>
>>>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
>>>> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
>> with
>>>> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the
>> speed a
>>>> bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73 - Jim K8MR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>>
>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>> busting
>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>
>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>
>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
>> but
>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>
>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>
>>>> . Something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>> who
>>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:00:39 -0500
>>> From: "Bill Parry" <bparry at rgv.rr.com>
>>> Cc: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>> Message-ID: <000001d4d8ba$7445b8b0$5cd12a10$@rgv.rr.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>
>>> I have noticed that I need to send a little slower in JA pileups than in
>> EU ones. Not sure why but if I try to speed up past 30 in a JA pileup the
>> pileup starts to dwindle. If the pileup is unruly I DO speed up.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of K9MA
>>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 9:03 PM
>>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>
>>> I slow down to the other?s speed, if necessary, and further if
>> conditions are poor. I think slowing down just for the sn is
>> counterproductive.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Scott K9MA
>>>
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> Scott Ellington
>>>
>>> --- via iPad
>>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>> busting
>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>
>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>
>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
>> is), but
>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>
>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>
>>>> . Something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>>>> who knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>>>
>>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:17:48 +0000 (UTC)
>>> From: jpescatore at aol.com
>>> To: CQ-Contest at CONTESTING.COM
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>> Message-ID: <939833448.4053654.1552389468740 at mail.yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>
>>> I'll generally stay at high speed unless the caller is obviously slower.
>> Then I will send their callsign back full speed and hit the PageDown key a
>> few times before the variable part of the exchange, then back up.?
>>> For information free exchanges, like CQ WW, I don't slow down. For NAQP,
>> SS, FD and others that get lots of new or part timers, I don't speed up. On
>> VHF tests, I send as if I was using a straight key...
>>> 73 John K3TN
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 07:35:47 -0400
>>> From: Dave Edmonds <dave at pkministrywebs.com>
>>> To: Jim Stahl <jimk8mr at aol.com>
>>> Cc: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>, "cq-contest at contesting.com"
>>> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
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>>> Amen K8MR!!!!!
>>>
>>> The comment about a sense of urgency is 100% DEAD ON! i never considered
>>> this before, but Jim is right. It's also upbeat and energetic...Those are
>>> always positive!
>>>
>>> Please do not change your CW speed during your exchange!... If you do,
>> I'll
>>> probably ask for a repeat. When I hear a 599 or 5NN (or the first element
>>> of the exchange) at 40 wpm, my brain is primed to copy the rest of the
>>> exchange at 40 wpm. Please oh please keep it constant. There's nothing
>> for
>>> difficult than copying variable speed transmissions...Who started this
>>> weird technique anyway?
>>>
>>> Have you ever heard W1AW speed copy tests? They don't change the speed
>> with
>>> every other word. Perhaps they should create one and call it the
>> contesters
>>> variable speed copy test. When I took my 20 wpm test at the FCC offices
>> in
>>> Atlanta, New Orleans and Greenville hamfest in the lat 70's, they didn't
>>> switch it up either.
>>>
>>> Frankly, even SS is pretty easy at the 36-40 range.
>>>
>>> This is a bit off the subject, but still relevant...Four more CW truths
>>> that drive me to the 'funny farm'.
>>>
>>> 1. If you run in a contest, please don't set your CQ speed faster than
>> you
>>> can actually copy CW.
>>>
>>> 2. Don't use phonetics on CW. I asked someone for a repeat recently and
>>> they spelled out the letter that I was mission... Holy moly... Just send
>>> the letter a few times.
>>>
>>> 3. I'll add one more... I hear the good old "Please copy" on CW too.
>> WHAT!
>>>
>>> 4. Please leave enough space between CQs for a guy with a 6-character
>>> callsign to reply at a reasonable speed. This weekend, I had to reply at
>> 44
>>> wpm to fit my callsign in the GAP. I'm now calling this the 'CQ GAP'.
>>>
>>> Playing a little Prince "Let's Go Crazy", "Tom Sawyer" by Rush or some
>> fast
>>> Phil Collins vinyl during your breaks will also help keep your speed up
>>> when you return.
>>>
>>> 73s Dave WN4AFP
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:41 PM K8MR via CQ-Contest <
>>> cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
>>>> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
>>>> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
>>>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
>> I
>>>> have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
>>>> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
>> and
>>>> knows how to increment a number.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
>>>> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
>>>> the other guy to call you now.
>>>>
>>>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
>>>> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
>> with
>>>> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the
>> speed a
>>>> bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73 - Jim K8MR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>>
>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>> busting
>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>
>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>
>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
>> but
>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>
>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>
>>>> . Something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>> who
>>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Edmonds
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>>>
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