[CQ-Contest] Serial number, contact sending speed
rjairam at gmail.com
rjairam at gmail.com
Wed Mar 13 12:04:53 EDT 2019
What if the other person not sure, deletes your call from their log?
You end up losing that QSO.
I don't have insight into log checking but I'd imagine that if the
computer can determine that the call was busted, one side would get
the Q credit - for example copying 6Y1V as BY1V, 6Y1V still gets the
credit. If it's completely off like copying W1VE as HB9/DL1ABC (due to
bad cluster spot) that you may lose the QSO point...
Ria
N2RJ
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 17:35, Stan Stockton <wa5rtg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Most all other contests. If you call ZF9CW and I log you as WN4AFO, you get credit and I don't. If I log you as Zone 4 with correct call you get credit and I don't. In Russian Contest both operators lose the contact in either of above scenarios.
>
> 73... Stan, ZF9CW
>
> > On Mar 12, 2019, at 1:05 PM, Dave Edmonds <dave at pkministrywebs.com> wrote:
> >
> > I thought you had to have correct information in your log for contacts in
> > any contest... So which contests allow us to do half the job?
> >
> > Dave AFP
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:36 PM NM5M <nm5meric at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Don’t forget, in the Russian contest, the contest sponsor penalizes
> >> stations if the receiving party doesn’t get the information correctly into
> >> their log. To simplify, both stations have to copy correct information in
> >> order to get full points for the contact.
> >>
> >> We could learn something from the way the Russians score their contest.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> NM5M
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
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> >>> 1. Phone Fray - Daylight Savings Time - Tuesday Nights
> >>> (dfaklis at frontiernet.net)
> >>> 2. Serial # contests, speed? (Mike Smith VE9AA)
> >>> 3. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (K9MA)
> >>> 4. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Edward Sawyer)
> >>> 5. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (rjairam at gmail.com)
> >>> 6. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (jimk8mr at aol.com)
> >>> 7. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Bob Shohet, KQ2M)
> >>> 8. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Ed K1EP)
> >>> 9. Serial # contests, speed? (Bill Parry)
> >>> 10. Serial # contests, speed? (jpescatore at aol.com)
> >>> 11. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Dave Edmonds)
> >>>
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> >>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:16:05 +0000 (UTC)
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> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:44:17 -0300
> >>> From: "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> >>> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>> Message-ID: <002e01d4d86c$b9f0a350$2dd1e9f0$@nbnet.nb.ca>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>
> >>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> >> busting
> >>> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>>
> >>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >>> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>>
> >>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> >> but
> >>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>>
> >>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>>
> >>> . Something else?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Inquiring minds.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> >> who
> >>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike VE9AA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >>>
> >>> Keswick Ridge, NB
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 3
> >>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:02:55 -0600
> >>> From: K9MA <k9ma at sdellington.us>
> >>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> >>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>> Message-ID: <C7FA205D-26C9-4065-818E-C4B7227D2961 at sdellington.us>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>>
> >>> I slow down to the other?s speed, if necessary, and further if
> >> conditions are poor. I think slowing down just for the sn is
> >> counterproductive.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Scott K9MA
> >>>
> >>> ----------
> >>>
> >>> Scott Ellington
> >>>
> >>> --- via iPad
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 11, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> >> busting
> >>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>>>
> >>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >>>> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>>>
> >>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> >> is), but
> >>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>>>
> >>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>>>
> >>>> . Something else?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Inquiring minds.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> >> who
> >>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike VE9AA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >>>>
> >>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 4
> >>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:01:42 -0400
> >>> From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at sbelectronics.com>
> >>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>, "cq-contest at contesting.com"
> >>> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> <
> >> 0D39B6681B67B44DAEC5D6AD99294A8E047CF8ED1E61 at SBEMAIL.sbelectronics.com>
> >>>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>
> >>> For WPX and Russia DX or ARRL or CQWW, for me it doesn't matter, serial
> >> # or not. If conditions are good and you are working Europe, especially,
> >> Russia and Eastern Europe, its fast 36 - 40. If its all US or South
> >> America I slow it down to 32 - 34. When conditions are more marginal
> >> especially with QSB, I use 28 - 30. Especially over the pole - 26 - 28.
> >>>
> >>> Ed N1UR
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Mike Smith VE9AA
> >>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:44 PM
> >>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> >>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>>
> >>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> >> busting
> >>> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>>
> >>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >>> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>>
> >>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> >> but
> >>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>>
> >>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>>
> >>> . Something else?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Inquiring minds.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> >> who knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike VE9AA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >>>
> >>> Keswick Ridge, NB
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> >>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 5
> >>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:05:47 -0400
> >>> From: "rjairam at gmail.com" <rjairam at gmail.com>
> >>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> >>> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> <CAMCyBs6k43PRTDN14_t8r7c9vjAGdWqE1R8iadZ1R1Z7Wk+VOg at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> Automatically have software go slower to send the exchange.
> >>>
> >>> 73
> >>> Ria, N2RJ
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 21:58, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> >> busting
> >>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>>>
> >>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >>>> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>>>
> >>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> >> is), but
> >>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>>>
> >>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>>>
> >>>> . Something else?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Inquiring minds.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> >> who
> >>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike VE9AA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >>>>
> >>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> >>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ria Jairam, N2RJ
> >>> Director, Hudson Division
> >>> ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
> >>> +1.973.594.6275
> >>> https://hudson.arrl.org
> >>> n2rj at arrl.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 6
> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 02:15:35 +0000 (UTC)
> >>> From: jimk8mr at aol.com
> >>> To: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca, cq-contest at contesting.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>> Message-ID: <2066153686.3273616.1552356935422 at mail.yahoo.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>>
> >>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> >> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
> >> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> >>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
> >> I have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
> >> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO and
> >> knows how to increment a number.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
> >> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
> >> the other guy to call you now.
> >>>
> >>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> >> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted with
> >> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the speed a
> >> bit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73? -? Jim? K8MR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> >>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> >>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>>
> >>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> .? ? ? Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> >> busting
> >>> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>>
> >>> .? ? ? Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >>> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>>
> >>> .? ? ? Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> >> but
> >>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>>
> >>> .? ? ? Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>>
> >>> .? ? ? Something else?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Inquiring minds.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> >> who
> >>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike VE9AA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 7
> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 00:18:04 -0400
> >>> From: "Bob Shohet, KQ2M" <kq2m at kq2m.com>
> >>> To: <jimk8mr at aol.com>, <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>,
> >>> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>> Message-ID: <A2E111074D3949F6BBB370BE544F0B44 at BOBWINPC1PC>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> What is fun is when a super op type calls you and you KNOW that you can
> >> speed up and send it to him at 60 wpm and he will get it the first time and
> >> vice-versa if I I call him/her. Get?s the blood pumping a little faster
> >> and puts a smile on my face (and hopefully theirs). :-) And there are
> >> some slow sending ops that can copy qrq easily ? but just can?t send fast ?
> >> and your turning up the speed to send to them is like a knowing handshake
> >> saluting their copying skill ? ?Hey I know who you are ? you?re a really
> >> good op so I am going to send fast to you!?.
> >>>
> >>> It also gets the attention of the pileup ? makes them listen and wonder
> >> what is going on. If they are listening then they are not transmitting
> >> which means that when the weak guy calls you will copy him and work him.
> >> Sometimes that weak guy is a polar path mult that you would never have
> >> heard if/when everyone was calling at once!
> >>>
> >>> It pays to slow down if cndx are disturbed and the signals start to
> >> sound auroral and/or of have significant flutter (like the W1 path to JA) ?
> >> if you are sending fast you will be harder to understand and callers may
> >> pass you by.
> >>>
> >>> 73
> >>>
> >>> Bob KQ2M
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: K8MR via CQ-Contest
> >>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:15 PM
> >>> To: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca ; cq-contest at contesting.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>>
> >>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> >> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
> >> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> >>>
> >>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
> >> I have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
> >> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO and
> >> knows how to increment a number.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
> >> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
> >> the other guy to call you now.
> >>>
> >>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> >> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted with
> >> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the speed a
> >> bit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73 - Jim K8MR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> >>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> >>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>>
> >>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> >> busting
> >>> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>>
> >>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >>> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>>
> >>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> >> but
> >>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>>
> >>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>>
> >>> . Something else?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Inquiring minds.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> >> who
> >>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike VE9AA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> >>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 8
> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:25:58 -0400
> >>> From: Ed K1EP <k1ep.list at gmail.com>
> >>> To: jimk8mr at aol.com
> >>> Cc: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca, cq Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> <CAKR4uUNq7qoQ2XRqRA=UmLPm9WOxg21na9sKUL8m8a8nQQOXDQ at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> What I don't get are those who send at warp speed, but pause a second or
> >>> two before sending the exchange. Same amount of time if you just
> >> eliminated
> >>> the pause and sent at non-warp speed.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 23:41 K8MR via CQ-Contest <
> >> cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> >>>> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
> >>>> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> >>>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
> >> I
> >>>> have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
> >>>> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
> >> and
> >>>> knows how to increment a number.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
> >>>> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
> >>>> the other guy to call you now.
> >>>>
> >>>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> >>>> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
> >> with
> >>>> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the
> >> speed a
> >>>> bit.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 73 - Jim K8MR
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> >>>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> >>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>>>
> >>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> >> busting
> >>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>>>
> >>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >>>> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>>>
> >>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> >> but
> >>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>>>
> >>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>>>
> >>>> . Something else?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Inquiring minds.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> >> who
> >>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike VE9AA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> >>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 9
> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:00:39 -0500
> >>> From: "Bill Parry" <bparry at rgv.rr.com>
> >>> Cc: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>> Message-ID: <000001d4d8ba$7445b8b0$5cd12a10$@rgv.rr.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> I have noticed that I need to send a little slower in JA pileups than in
> >> EU ones. Not sure why but if I try to speed up past 30 in a JA pileup the
> >> pileup starts to dwindle. If the pileup is unruly I DO speed up.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of K9MA
> >>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 9:03 PM
> >>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> >>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>>
> >>> I slow down to the other?s speed, if necessary, and further if
> >> conditions are poor. I think slowing down just for the sn is
> >> counterproductive.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Scott K9MA
> >>>
> >>> ----------
> >>>
> >>> Scott Ellington
> >>>
> >>> --- via iPad
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 11, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> >> busting
> >>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>>>
> >>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >>>> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>>>
> >>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> >> is), but
> >>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>>>
> >>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>>>
> >>>> . Something else?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Inquiring minds.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> >>>> who knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike VE9AA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >>>>
> >>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 10
> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:17:48 +0000 (UTC)
> >>> From: jpescatore at aol.com
> >>> To: CQ-Contest at CONTESTING.COM
> >>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>> Message-ID: <939833448.4053654.1552389468740 at mail.yahoo.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>>
> >>> I'll generally stay at high speed unless the caller is obviously slower.
> >> Then I will send their callsign back full speed and hit the PageDown key a
> >> few times before the variable part of the exchange, then back up.?
> >>> For information free exchanges, like CQ WW, I don't slow down. For NAQP,
> >> SS, FD and others that get lots of new or part timers, I don't speed up. On
> >> VHF tests, I send as if I was using a straight key...
> >>> 73 John K3TN
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 11
> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 07:35:47 -0400
> >>> From: Dave Edmonds <dave at pkministrywebs.com>
> >>> To: Jim Stahl <jimk8mr at aol.com>
> >>> Cc: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>, "cq-contest at contesting.com"
> >>> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> <CAHQrxhKcjm4OYZ4Oo=gLxbZqoj-WkT1+iX8GE6tpQAR7gtnGYw at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> Amen K8MR!!!!!
> >>>
> >>> The comment about a sense of urgency is 100% DEAD ON! i never considered
> >>> this before, but Jim is right. It's also upbeat and energetic...Those are
> >>> always positive!
> >>>
> >>> Please do not change your CW speed during your exchange!... If you do,
> >> I'll
> >>> probably ask for a repeat. When I hear a 599 or 5NN (or the first element
> >>> of the exchange) at 40 wpm, my brain is primed to copy the rest of the
> >>> exchange at 40 wpm. Please oh please keep it constant. There's nothing
> >> for
> >>> difficult than copying variable speed transmissions...Who started this
> >>> weird technique anyway?
> >>>
> >>> Have you ever heard W1AW speed copy tests? They don't change the speed
> >> with
> >>> every other word. Perhaps they should create one and call it the
> >> contesters
> >>> variable speed copy test. When I took my 20 wpm test at the FCC offices
> >> in
> >>> Atlanta, New Orleans and Greenville hamfest in the lat 70's, they didn't
> >>> switch it up either.
> >>>
> >>> Frankly, even SS is pretty easy at the 36-40 range.
> >>>
> >>> This is a bit off the subject, but still relevant...Four more CW truths
> >>> that drive me to the 'funny farm'.
> >>>
> >>> 1. If you run in a contest, please don't set your CQ speed faster than
> >> you
> >>> can actually copy CW.
> >>>
> >>> 2. Don't use phonetics on CW. I asked someone for a repeat recently and
> >>> they spelled out the letter that I was mission... Holy moly... Just send
> >>> the letter a few times.
> >>>
> >>> 3. I'll add one more... I hear the good old "Please copy" on CW too.
> >> WHAT!
> >>>
> >>> 4. Please leave enough space between CQs for a guy with a 6-character
> >>> callsign to reply at a reasonable speed. This weekend, I had to reply at
> >> 44
> >>> wpm to fit my callsign in the GAP. I'm now calling this the 'CQ GAP'.
> >>>
> >>> Playing a little Prince "Let's Go Crazy", "Tom Sawyer" by Rush or some
> >> fast
> >>> Phil Collins vinyl during your breaks will also help keep your speed up
> >>> when you return.
> >>>
> >>> 73s Dave WN4AFP
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:41 PM K8MR via CQ-Contest <
> >>> cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> >>>> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
> >>>> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> >>>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
> >> I
> >>>> have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
> >>>> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
> >> and
> >>>> knows how to increment a number.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
> >>>> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
> >>>> the other guy to call you now.
> >>>>
> >>>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> >>>> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
> >> with
> >>>> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the
> >> speed a
> >>>> bit.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 73 - Jim K8MR
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> >>>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> >>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> >>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>>>
> >>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> >> busting
> >>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>>>
> >>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >>>> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>>>
> >>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> >> but
> >>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>>>
> >>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>>>
> >>>> . Something else?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Inquiring minds.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> >> who
> >>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike VE9AA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Dave Edmonds
> >>> PK Ministry Webs
> >>> 864.288.6678
> >>> dave at pkministrywebs.com
> >>> www.pkministrywebs.com
> >>>
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> > --
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