[CQ-Contest] Room Reservations for Dayton 2020 at the CrownePlaza hotel in downtown Dayton

Tue Sep 17 17:13:28 EDT 2019

Hello all,

This whole 'Dayton thing' has been on my mind for several months.

I've come to the decision that this past Dayton was my last.

As some of you may know, my Corvette was broken into while sitting on 
Crown Plaza property in the valet parking area. Nothing was taken, but 
sure messed up my 'Dayton experience'. Spent the whole day Friday 
dealing with getting the window replaced.

But, that's not all.

After we first arrived on Wednesday, five of us went to a South American 
restaurant just past Thai 9 and had a really fine dinner.  On the way 
back, we were approached by an apparently drug addled person, ranting 
about his 'girlfriend' and threatening the whole group of us.  We just 
kept on walking past him like the river goes around a rock, and that was 
the end of it, but of that group, more than one exercises their 2nd 
Amendment right.  There is no doubt in my mind that if he had been 
holding some sort of weapon, when he stepped out of the shadows, there 
would have been a very different outcome.

When my Corvette got broken into, the SUV next to me got 'keyed'.

One of my friends, on two occasions, was approached by panhandlers 
begging for money.  He was out by the curb in front of the CP, smoking a 
cigarette both times.

Another evening, a group of well know software guys, were walking back 
down by that spaghetti place close to the CP and were propositioned by 
hookers.  Nice area.

Another fellow was followed into a parking garage by someone he passed 
on the street.  He is a large man.  He left the mugger on the floor of 
the parking garage.

'CJ' (call escapes me) got his lip busted when he didn't have a 
cigarette for one of the street urchins.

CP does not have any security cameras on the plaza where the valet 
parking is.

The Dayton Police minimizes and under reports the criminal activity.   
Right after my incident, I wrote emails to those who I thought should 
know what happened.  The police PR person politely tried to blow smoke 
up my butt about the whole thing.

I am not returning because of fear.  I don't need the hassle and I won't 
knowingly put myself in a situation where I may need to defend myself.

73 de Steve, NR4M

On 9/17/2019 12:45 PM, Jeff Clarke wrote:
> I would like to offer my perspective as someone who has attended the 
> Hamvention since the late 1970's. I've stayed at the Crowne Plaza many 
> times over the years and just drove there from my home QTH for the 
> contesting events back when I lived in Ohio. I have to say that I've 
> never thought about safety (or had any issues) when walking back and 
> forth to the connecting parking garage or going to nearby restaurants 
> with my contesting friends. During Dayton weekend there is an 
> international food festival in the adjoining convention center so 
> there are plenty of people around to feel safe.
>
> For those not familiar with the area where the Crown Plaza is located, 
> the shooting took place on East 5th Avenue which is just east of the 
> hotel. If you walk out of the front door of the hotel, which is 
> located at the corner of East 5th and Jefferson, turn left and walk 
> down East 5th Ave. the Oregon District where the shooting took place 
> is about a block away. This is an area of downtown Dayton that has 
> been reinvented with upscale restaurants and bars much like other 
> major cities are doing.
>
> I was curious about how safe this area is so I Googled it. See below 
> an interesting article I found in the Dayton Daily News. This should 
> alleviate any fears you might have about this area of downtown Dayton.
>
> https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/late-night-the-oregon-district-will-people-feel-safe/mfcNaYYaoBbY7nN2P6K0NP/# 
>
>
> Dayton is no different (i.e. petty crimes) than any other downtown 
> area in any other major city.  You just need to use common sense and 
> be aware of the surroundings. It probably would be a good idea to walk 
> in groups, especially late at night, and the odds are you will 
> probably have no issues.
>
> Jeff KU8E
>
>
> On 9/17/2019 10:45 AM, PY2NY wrote:
>> I am so sad reading everything about Dayton, because
>> Ana PU2VYT and me, we did our last visit in 2000 and
>> was superb.
>>
>> I really hope that Dayton can go forward and have
>> better days in your local economy ASAP.
>>
>> Really sad news here in the reflector...
>>
>> 73 DX
>>
>>
>> .
>> ..
>> ...
>> --------------------------------
>> PY2NY / SP9NY / V26NY  - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
>> http://military-jeep-brasil.blogspot.com.br/
>>
>>
>>
>> Em ter, 17 de set de 2019 às 11:23, Allan W Schlaugat 
>> <reflectors at n9isn.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> I personally know of two assaults on contesters, one requiring medical
>>> attention, within the immediate area around the CP last year. My 
>>> last trip
>>> to Dayton in 2018 I was with the K9PG group dining at a great BBQ place
>>> south of the CP and it was just starting to get 'sketchy' then. (we 
>>> never
>>> did find a good place that sold milk shakes afterwards) Stay in 
>>> groups and
>>> be aware of your surroundings.
>>>
>>> Al   N9ISN
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:01:35 +0000, Radio KØHB <kzerohb at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m only familiar with the area immediately adjacent to the 
>>>> CrownPlaza,
>>> so I can’t speak about the “Oregon area”.
>>>> In my (mis-spent) youth in the Navy I navigated a lot of dark and 
>>>> sketchy
>>> waterfronts in down-scale foreign ports.
>>>> In none of them was I ever so apprehensive for my safety as I was this
>>> last May after the Contest Dinner walking
>>>> 2 blocks from CP to where my vehicle was parked in a surface lot.
>>> Approached twice with offers of intimate
>>>> horizontal refreshment and once by a pair of fellows desiring 
>>>> “money for
>>> the bus”.
>>>> 73, de Hans, KØHB
>>>> "Just a boy and his radio"™
>>> -- 
>>> Allan W. Schlaugat                    Albertville, WI  USA
>>> Amateur Radio: N9ISN            Home Page:   www.n9isn.com
>>> American Philatelic Society #186089
>>>
>>> I believe in sharing the road with other drivers.  They can
>>> have the part behind me.
>>>
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