[CQ-Contest] Room Reservations for Dayton 2020 at the CrownePlaza hotel in downtown Dayton

Tue Sep 17 22:25:58 EDT 2019

Hello all,

Sure messed that up.

I said 'I am not returning because of fear.'  What I meant was 'I'm not 
staying away from Dayton because of fear'.

Steve

On 9/17/2019 5:13 PM, Steve Bookout wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> This whole 'Dayton thing' has been on my mind for several months.
>
> I've come to the decision that this past Dayton was my last.
>
> As some of you may know, my Corvette was broken into while sitting on 
> Crown Plaza property in the valet parking area. Nothing was taken, but 
> sure messed up my 'Dayton experience'. Spent the whole day Friday 
> dealing with getting the window replaced.
>
> But, that's not all.
>
> After we first arrived on Wednesday, five of us went to a South 
> American restaurant just past Thai 9 and had a really fine dinner.  On 
> the way back, we were approached by an apparently drug addled person, 
> ranting about his 'girlfriend' and threatening the whole group of us.  
> We just kept on walking past him like the river goes around a rock, 
> and that was the end of it, but of that group, more than one exercises 
> their 2nd Amendment right.  There is no doubt in my mind that if he 
> had been holding some sort of weapon, when he stepped out of the 
> shadows, there would have been a very different outcome.
>
> When my Corvette got broken into, the SUV next to me got 'keyed'.
>
> One of my friends, on two occasions, was approached by panhandlers 
> begging for money.  He was out by the curb in front of the CP, smoking 
> a cigarette both times.
>
> Another evening, a group of well know software guys, were walking back 
> down by that spaghetti place close to the CP and were propositioned by 
> hookers.  Nice area.
>
> Another fellow was followed into a parking garage by someone he passed 
> on the street.  He is a large man.  He left the mugger on the floor of 
> the parking garage.
>
> 'CJ' (call escapes me) got his lip busted when he didn't have a 
> cigarette for one of the street urchins.
>
> CP does not have any security cameras on the plaza where the valet 
> parking is.
>
> The Dayton Police minimizes and under reports the criminal activity.   
> Right after my incident, I wrote emails to those who I thought should 
> know what happened.  The police PR person politely tried to blow smoke 
> up my butt about the whole thing.
>
> I am not returning because of fear.  I don't need the hassle and I 
> won't knowingly put myself in a situation where I may need to defend 
> myself.
>
> 73 de Steve, NR4M
>
>
> On 9/17/2019 12:45 PM, Jeff Clarke wrote:
>> I would like to offer my perspective as someone who has attended the 
>> Hamvention since the late 1970's. I've stayed at the Crowne Plaza 
>> many times over the years and just drove there from my home QTH for 
>> the contesting events back when I lived in Ohio. I have to say that 
>> I've never thought about safety (or had any issues) when walking back 
>> and forth to the connecting parking garage or going to nearby 
>> restaurants with my contesting friends. During Dayton weekend there 
>> is an international food festival in the adjoining convention center 
>> so there are plenty of people around to feel safe.
>>
>> For those not familiar with the area where the Crown Plaza is 
>> located, the shooting took place on East 5th Avenue which is just 
>> east of the hotel. If you walk out of the front door of the hotel, 
>> which is located at the corner of East 5th and Jefferson, turn left 
>> and walk down East 5th Ave. the Oregon District where the shooting 
>> took place is about a block away. This is an area of downtown Dayton 
>> that has been reinvented with upscale restaurants and bars much like 
>> other major cities are doing.
>>
>> I was curious about how safe this area is so I Googled it. See below 
>> an interesting article I found in the Dayton Daily News. This should 
>> alleviate any fears you might have about this area of downtown Dayton.
>>
>> https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/late-night-the-oregon-district-will-people-feel-safe/mfcNaYYaoBbY7nN2P6K0NP/# 
>>
>>
>> Dayton is no different (i.e. petty crimes) than any other downtown 
>> area in any other major city.  You just need to use common sense and 
>> be aware of the surroundings. It probably would be a good idea to 
>> walk in groups, especially late at night, and the odds are you will 
>> probably have no issues.
>>
>> Jeff KU8E
>>
>>
>> On 9/17/2019 10:45 AM, PY2NY wrote:
>>> I am so sad reading everything about Dayton, because
>>> Ana PU2VYT and me, we did our last visit in 2000 and
>>> was superb.
>>>
>>> I really hope that Dayton can go forward and have
>>> better days in your local economy ASAP.
>>>
>>> Really sad news here in the reflector...
>>>
>>> 73 DX
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>> ..
>>> ...
>>> --------------------------------
>>> PY2NY / SP9NY / V26NY  - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
>>> http://military-jeep-brasil.blogspot.com.br/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Em ter, 17 de set de 2019 às 11:23, Allan W Schlaugat 
>>> <reflectors at n9isn.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> I personally know of two assaults on contesters, one requiring medical
>>>> attention, within the immediate area around the CP last year. My 
>>>> last trip
>>>> to Dayton in 2018 I was with the K9PG group dining at a great BBQ 
>>>> place
>>>> south of the CP and it was just starting to get 'sketchy' then. (we 
>>>> never
>>>> did find a good place that sold milk shakes afterwards) Stay in 
>>>> groups and
>>>> be aware of your surroundings.
>>>>
>>>> Al   N9ISN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:01:35 +0000, Radio KØHB <kzerohb at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’m only familiar with the area immediately adjacent to the 
>>>>> CrownPlaza,
>>>> so I can’t speak about the “Oregon area”.
>>>>> In my (mis-spent) youth in the Navy I navigated a lot of dark and 
>>>>> sketchy
>>>> waterfronts in down-scale foreign ports.
>>>>> In none of them was I ever so apprehensive for my safety as I was 
>>>>> this
>>>> last May after the Contest Dinner walking
>>>>> 2 blocks from CP to where my vehicle was parked in a surface lot.
>>>> Approached twice with offers of intimate
>>>>> horizontal refreshment and once by a pair of fellows desiring 
>>>>> “money for
>>>> the bus”.
>>>>> 73, de Hans, KØHB
>>>>> "Just a boy and his radio"™
>>>> -- 
>>>> Allan W. Schlaugat                    Albertville, WI  USA
>>>> Amateur Radio: N9ISN            Home Page:   www.n9isn.com
>>>> American Philatelic Society #186089
>>>>
>>>> I believe in sharing the road with other drivers.  They can
>>>> have the part behind me.
>>>>
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