[CQ-Contest] Alligators and lids

[Tom Hellem]

Bob-
What you have stated about behavior in pileups can be neither disputed nor
refuted.
You have hit a nail directly on the head. Sadly it seems to be more and
more common
these days, and it is not confined to SSB. I noticed same thing in ARRL DX
CW last weekend.
I had a pileup of Europeans going (a pileup of any kind is rare for my
modest station) and
every time I asked for station XYZ, 4 or 5 stations ABC would call. It's a
real rate killer.
I wish the people who are doing it would understand that, or maybe they do
and just
don't care.

Tom
K0SN


On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 1:17 PM Bob Shohet, KQ2M <kq2m at kq2m.com> wrote:

> I notice this more on 160 than on any other band.  A DX station is
> operating split and several US stations call repeatedly.  They continue
> calling while the DX station is transmitting and this happens repeatedly.
> With some, endlessly.
>
> Now I am not talking about people that make mistakes by occasionally
> calling out of turn, or started sending their call and then the DX station
> transmitted, or, because of the qrm/qrn continue to call because they hear
> some of their callsign letters and honestly think that the DX station came
> back to them instead of someone else.  No, I am talking about the serial
> offenders who operate this way as a defining trait.
>
> I’m wondering, why continue calling when you obviously can’t copy the
> station that you want to work?  What’s worse, is that they continually
> transmit on and qrm the callers that DX station is trying to work.  This
> slows the rate down and frustrates the DX station and  callers.
>
> This is not only bad operating practice, it is also rude, wastes time and
> is very selfish and spiteful.  This is not an occasional event either.
> Examples of what I describe take place daily on 160, and many are repeat
> offenders – operating this way in almost every pileup.
>
> And even worse is that there are those that can hear better, and when the
> DX station comes to K2XXX and sends “K2XXX 599”, W3ZZZ sends his callsign
> twice right on top of him.  The DX station then again sends “K2XXX 599”.
> And again W3ZZZ sends his callsign twice right on top of him.  This
> behavior is 100% intentional.  W3ZZZ doesn’t care who the DX station is
> calling and he doesn’t care that he is intentionally qrming K2XXX who
> clearly is trying to work the DX station.  Nope.  W3ZZZ only cares about
> his own “wants” and everyone else be darned.
>
> There is no excuse for intentionally operating like this.  Ever.
>
> Let’s give the DXpedition stations (and the resident DX stations) a break
> shall we?  It is hard enough for them to spend a lot of time and money to
> travel to a foreign country, transport equipment and set up a station, deal
> with the local qrm/qrn on 160 and then have to be plagued with these kinds
> of poor behavior.  The least that we can do is clean up our operating
> practices and make it easier for the DX operator to work us!
>
> If you can’t hear then don’t call.  And if you can hear, then call only
> when you are supposed to and, PLEASE, wait your turn.
>
> 73
>
>
> Bob, KQ2M
>
>
>
> From: Jim Brown
> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 3:23 AM
> To: cq-contest
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Alligators
>
> W6OAT and I are about 800 miles apart near Seattle and San Francisco
> respectively, and we both observed the same thing during CQ160SSB --
> running stations that are very solid copy are DEAF. Contesters would do
> well to spend a LOT more effort on RX. Those who have not done so miss
> lots of QSOs.
>
> And if you can't hear, please don't pollute the band with a big signal
> constantly CQing!
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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