[CQ-Contest] Key Clicks.... Continuing Problem

Fri Nov 13 19:53:13 EST 2020

Hans; 

"The term “disciplinary action” is inappropriate, because of course only FCC can do that."

Can you suggest more appropriate wording? That's why I brought it up here. My guess is that a "disciplinary action" would consist of a change to a "check-log" status.  Maybe I should just note that it "may be changed to a check-log"? That said, it would have to be a pretty egregious act to warrant a disqualification, and I doubt it would be used much. At least the wording would be there, just like speed limit signs on the road.   

There were those on this list that were complaining about the laxity of ARRL contest rules regarding key clicks a few months back, and I agreed with them. I'm trying to fix some of that, and also make the ARRL rules more consistent with CQ Contest Rules.

It seems the VM program is much like the old OO program, but cleaned up and made more formal. They will still send you a "friendly reminder" for the same things they did before, such as venturing too close to a band-edge. Contests are certainly not their mission, but it does tend to be when a heck of a lot more amateurs are on the air than on a weekday afternoon. 

73;
Mike
W7VO

> On 11/13/2020 3:24 PM Hans Brakob <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> The term “disciplinary action” is inappropriate, because of course only FCC can do that.
> 
> The Volunteer Monitor program is a good and useful thing.  Don’t compromise its’ reputation by suggesting its’ mission is an ARRL Kilocycle Kop Brigade watching over ARRL radiosport events.
> 
> 
> 
> 73, de Hans, KØHB
> “Just a Boy and his Radio”™
> ________________________________
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com at contesting.com> on behalf of Michael Ritz <w7vo at comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 4:49:39 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Key Clicks.... Continuing Problem
> 
> Not that it means much, but I am in the process of updating the ARRL General Contest rules to include "clean signal" requirements, including key clicks and splatter. Right now there is only a general "entrants are bound by regulations of their national licensing authority" in the ARRL rules. That implies FCC Part 97.307 for US entrants, but what about everybody else in the world?
> 
> What I'm proposing to add "Each participant in an ARRL sponsored contest shall take precautions to ensure that all signals emitted are free from excessive bandwidth, splatter, key clicks, or other spurious emissions".
> 
> As far as adjudication, I'm adding under "Disqualification and Penalties": "Unsportsmanlike conduct will not be tolerated in ARRL contests. The ARRL reserves the right to take disciplinary action, up to and including disqualification, for entrants that violate this rule. This includes the emission of signals that do not meet applicable standards as specified...."
> 
> Keep in mind that we (the ARRL) now have a pretty sophisticated Volunteer Monitor program in place, and they are looking for not only band-edge violators, but signal quality violations as well. Of course, still only for US entrants.
> 
> 
> 
> 73;
> Mike
> W7VO
> 
> 
> > On 11/12/2020 1:50 PM Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Great post, Jim. Thanks!
> >
> > Based on what I learned doing that study several years ago of ARRL Lab
> > data, I completely agree. There are other things we can do as well.
> > After I gave a preliminary version of that study to someone who I
> > strongly suspected would pass it along to Yaesu, whose radios were the
> > worst offenders, a firmware upgrade for that series of radios was
> > released that improved keying to the extent that it looked more like the
> > second worst offender (of that generation), ICOM. :)  If you have one of
> > those rigs, by all means install the upgrade. I did before and after
> > measurements of keying bandwidth on a neighbor's FTDX500. They are here.
> >
> > http://k9yc.com/P3_Spectrum_Measurements.pdf
> >
> > The study of ARRL Lab data is here.
> >
> >   http://k9yc.com/TXNoise.pdf
> >
> > Yes, the slowest possible rise time should be used when it can be
> > adjusted. The reason no adjustment is needed (or possible) with Elecraft
> > rigs (beginning with the K3) is that the keying waveform is carefully
> > shaped for maximum clarity and minimum clicks. Flex adopted this a year
> > or so after ARRL Labs first tested the 6500 series. I don't know if
> > they've tested those rigs for keying bandwidth after that upgrade.
> >
> > Another major generator of clicks (and splatter) is the use of ALC
> > between the transceiver and the power amp to control power. In general,
> > that form of ALC should ONLY be used to protect the amp from faults in
> > the antenna system, including the operator transmitting into the wrong
> > antenna. :)
> >
> > I haven't studied the current generation of Yaesu rigs on CW, but the
> > lower cost models generate terrible splatter -- typically 2 kHz or more
> > on both sides of their intended bandwidth, only 20 dB down. That is, 2
> > kHz on the suppressed side of the carrier, and 4-5 kHz on the other side
> > of  suppressed carrier. I discovered this when helping a neighbor figure
> > out why his new Yaesu was splattering, also by observing it on other
> > signals, alerting the splattering station, who told me what rig he was
> > using.
> >
> > Obviously, if the transceiver is generating the splatter (or the
> > clicks), the power amp will amplify it (and maybe add more of its own).
> > Think about it -- if someone with one of these rigs is 30dB over S9 in
> > your receiver, his sidebands will be 10 dB over S9, not great if you're
> > trying to work someone on an adjacent frequency.
> >
> > Yes, there were some very clicky signals this weekend. Thankfully fewer,
> > as Elecraft and Flex rigs continue to proliferate.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
> > On 11/12/2020 9:23 AM, Jim McCook wrote:
> > > Anyone who has been operating in CW contests is aware of the rampant key
> > > click problem we all must deal with.
> > >
> > > If you are using a JA made radio, please check the CW rise time to be
> > > sure it's set to 8ms (unless 6ms is maximum... which needs to be
> > > changed).  Also check to be sure you're not hot switching your
> > > amplifier.  Key clicks in contests have become a serious problem and
> > > it's long overdue for resolution.  If you use an older JA radio without
> > > that adjustment, there may be a key click mod that will eliminate those
> > > clicks.
> > >
> > > There is a reported case of a radio set for 8ms being sent to the
> > > manufacturer for repair and was returned with a 4ms setting. Please
> > > check after such repair returns.
> > >
> > > Elecraft and Flex users need not be concerned unless something is wrong
> > > with the radio.
> > >
> > > 73, Jim
> > > W6YA
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